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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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I did my first oil change this weekend on my '02 Z06 as I'm getting ready to put it away for the winter. Between going up and down the Rhino ramps many times attempting to position the tires properly, using a 2X4 across each "bump" at the end of the ramp in order to enhance the height of the "bump", jacking up the rear high enough to get the oil pan positioned properly to drain, and being scared silly that the dang car was going to roll forward on me and crush me while I was under it, it took me close to 2 hours to change the oil I can change the oil on my wife's CRV and my 4x4 truck in a half hour.

Anyway, does anyone know if it's possible to siphon the oil out of the dip stick tube rather than having to lift both the front and rear of the car at the same time? Does anyone make an oil change kit? Someone told me B&W makes one but I can not find it.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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A kit like you describe has been posted before. But I will ask you the same question that always comes up - how are you going to change the filter?
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Like you said, "jacking the rear ... to drain all the old oil out," you'll never get it all by sliding a tube down the dipstikc tube.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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A kit like you describe has been posted before. But I will ask you the same question that always comes up - how are you going to change the filter?
I would still go up on the ramps in the front in order to change the filter. But I would not have to jack up the rear at the same time. Going up on the ramps is no problem. It's going up on the ramps and jacking up the rear end. There is no emergency brake for the front wheels.

Also, like 2bluestreak said, siphoning will not get all the oil out. Nor will it get the junk out if there is any. I am going to look into different ramps I guess for the spring oil change.

My concern is really about safety, not time.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Trebor
I would still go up on the ramps in the front in order to change the filter. But I would not have to jack up the rear at the same time.

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The GM Service Manual is very clear: the vette MUST BE LEVEL to drain the oil. There is a series of baffles insde the oil pan which will NOT drain if the car is not level.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Not a problem with ramps on the front and jacked in the rear. I have done it many times. Check it out:



Or this way. I often work on it like this. No where for it to go with the ramps facing each other.

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Silver98 and Patches:

Thanks for the replies. And Patches thanks for taking time to post the pictures. It's easier to understand looking at pics. So I guess if I don't goes nuts by jacking the rear too high (like Silver98 said, level is good),
I could have the rear a tad higher than the front and I'll be OK.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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what if you ride up the ramps backwards, raising the back, put on the brake, then jack up the front and slide in the ramps like in the picturs? or will backing onto the ramps scrape the front?

Also, you can try doing the change facing downhill on a hill. If you find a good hill, ride up the ramps and you will be level when you ride up your ramps, offsetting the slope of the hill
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I change the oil a different way then most everyone else on this forum, and i feel it works well...

I basically jack the front of the car up, slide under and pull the plug - drain as much as possible, then with a drip pan under the pan (big enough to hold about 1/2-1qt) i simply lower the car back onto the ground and let the rest of the oil drain onto the drip pan...

Let the car sit for a while to let the oil drain, jack the front back up and put the plug back in...

I agree it takes entirely too much time to try and jack the front and back up and the stress that goes along with it.

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Of course you should use ramps or stands when sliding under the car.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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that's another good way, and for added safety, when you jack up the front slide in a set of ramps while you get under the car, then take them out when you lower it. Doesnt take too long.
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Thanks for added posts and words of encouragement. I thought I was (and probably have) was losing it when it took me so long. I also thought of the idea of sliding an oil pan under the car and then lowering it. Glad it actually works for you. I think I am leaning toward Patches idea in his photo. I am going to buy a second set of Rhino ramps. Drive forward and onto the front ramps. Jack up the rear and slide another set of Rhinos under the rear tires. I may place a flat board on each top of the rear ramps just to gain a little rear height.Lower the rear. Now the rear wheels are locked via the emergency brake. Change the oil and not be so nervous under there

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