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i think you would take away the nec. rigidity away from car, thats why they don't make z06 verts.
i think gm doesn't make a Z06 vert because of economics and not rigidity(even thourgh this is there answer). they know people will buy the 405 hp in a frc. if they make a vert z06, the FRC will be the lesser seller as will the vert with 350Hp. most people who buy vette's would get the top HP motor if it was ordered in the bodystyle they desire. GM if, your listening, if dodge can make a 500 vert why the hell can't you??
Since the C5 was designed to be a vert, the vert is more rigid than a coupe. Rumour has it that there may be a Z06 vert in a couple of years.
Actually your statement and logic are not quite right. Its true that the C5 CHASSIS was designed from the beginning to accomodate a convertible. GM designed the chassis to be the most rigid chassis ever put UNDER a Corvette. This way GM made the convertible rigidity more dependent on the chassis than the usual body/roof/chassis combination. Once they came up with the design that gave them the rigidity they wanted, they then added the targa roof design, which added even more rigidity to the structure, and finally the fixed roof design, which added still more rigidity.
THe C5 does not have the typical add on bracing or frame structure to help make the convertible frame rigid that other cars use. So while removing the roof from the Z06 does make it less rigid than a stock Z06, IF (a big IF) its done right it probably is no less rigid than a standard, factory C5 convertible, WHICH IS LESS RIGID THAN A ZO6
I saw a Z06 on Ebay that had $1500 vert conversion. Is it really that easy to convert a Z06 or FRC into a convertible?
Well, if you decide to convert to a vert let me know. I have a coupe I want to make a hardtop. I have the windshield frame you need and you have the top I need.
Since the C5 was designed to be a vert, the vert is more rigid than a coupe. Rumour has it that there may be a Z06 vert in a couple of years.
As I understand it the c5 was designed to be made as a vert from the start so there is not a real weight diff between the targa and the vert but the coup and frc (z06) are definatly more rigid (not that the vert is not also very rigid, just not as rigid as the frc or targa).
Well, if you decide to convert to a vert let me know. I have a coupe I want to make a hardtop. I have the windshield frame you need and you have the top I need.
You got it. I did not realize the coupe windshield frame was the same as the vert, but that makes sense. I've passed up some pretty good deals on FRCs because I want a 6spd vert. These are kind of rare in Oklahoma. $1500 to make a vert gives me a lot more possibilities.
I would much rather buy a Vert and convert the mechanics to a Z06 or better. No need to start hacking up a perfectly good body. The mechanical conversion is all bolt up and the parts become available at reasonable prices as people modify the Z06s. The hardest part is the pistons but LS1 pistons work just fine. You can easily pick up a few additional HP over the Z06 with cams, porting, etc. Do the springs, sway bars and shocks and you are very close in the handling department. No need to hack up body.
i think gm doesn't make a Z06 vert because of economics and not rigidity(even thourgh this is there answer). they know people will buy the 405 hp in a frc. if they make a vert z06, the FRC will be the lesser seller as will the vert with 350Hp. most people who buy vette's would get the top HP motor if it was ordered in the bodystyle they desire. GM if, your listening, if dodge can make a 500 vert why the hell can't you??
Read in the current issue of Road & Track that the General is working on a Z06 convertible!
Maybe they are listening!
I would much rather buy a Vert and convert the mechanics to a Z06 or better. No need to start hacking up a perfectly good body.
I understand. I cringe everytime I watch Hollywood crash a classic muscle car.
But it sounds like a person could convert a FRC into a vert a lot cheaper than buying a vert out right. I've noticed that used FRCs are selling about about $5000 cheaper than used verts. Isn't converting an FRC to a vert raising it's value? Plus, you can pick the color of your brand new top.
I bought a Y2K vert. It has everything it in that I wanted.
For $4000.00 in parts and labor, I can beat a ZO6 anyday. And, I have a beautiful convertible.
I bought a Y2K vert. It has everything it in that I wanted.
For $4000.00 in parts and labor, I can beat a ZO6 anyday. And, I have a beautiful convertible.
What did the Vert cost you and how many miles? That's what I have too. Just like the one in the forum header above, torch red with light oak interior.
Y2K vette bought in 2002 with 9000 miles $38000.00
all the bolt ons, cam package, heads, and labor actually about $5000
Hitting the gas and running the gears with the top down. Priceless
. Isn't converting an FRC to a vert raising it's value?
Hardly. First, the cost of modifying the body, converting the interior, etc. will easily eat up that difference. Second, the whole point of this discussion to convert a z06, not a FRC, which has the stock LS-1 drivetrain. Finally, the VIN will still be for a FRC, which has now been damaged and repaired (however excellently).
If I were to go this way I'd find a 'vert with a dead motor and drop in the drivetrain out of a wrecked Z06.
Hardly. First, the cost of modifying the body, converting the interior, etc. will easily eat up that difference. Second, the whole point of this discussion to convert a z06, not a FRC, which has the stock LS-1 drivetrain.
I don't disagree with what you said really, but my original question was intended to find out if $1500 as stated by the person selling the Z06 is realistic? And, I referenced both the Z06 and FRC on purpose because they are the same body and I've seen a few cheap FRCs.
$1500 just doesn't sound realistic to me, that is why I asked here hoping a body guy might be on the list.
I admit, the idea is little out of the box, but forums are great places to learn about such things.