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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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I have some uncoated stainless steel headers. Before I try to get them installed should I do anything about heat?? There is no ceramic coating and the spark plugs are right there. A lot of the headers on the market are sold both coated and uncoated but mine are uncoated, so comments about buying coated headers are useless to me...
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I have some uncoated stainless steel headers. Before I try to get them installed should I do anything about heat?? There is no ceramic coating and the spark plugs are right there. A lot of the headers on the market are sold both coated and uncoated but mine are uncoated, so comments about buying coated headers are useless to me...
This is one thing that KoolSocks are made for. I believe most people with longtubes put them on. They fit over the plugs and wires next to the headers and protect them from the heat.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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I have some uncoated stainless steel headers. Before I try to get them installed should I do anything about heat?? There is no ceramic coating and the spark plugs are right there. A lot of the headers on the market are sold both coated and uncoated but mine are uncoated, so comments about buying coated headers are useless to me...
Properly designed SS headers will not require the addition of kool socks
there will be more clearence then with the stock manifolds.
SS headers transfer much less heat then mild steel and don't rust so coating them is a waste of money except for appearences.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Properly designed SS headers will not require the addition of kool socks
there will be more clearence then with the stock manifolds.
SS headers transfer much less heat then mild steel and don't rust so coating them is a waste of money except for appearences.
I'm not an expert, but not too sure of that. DRM Motorsports, who's an extremely well-known tuner, puts them on with LG longtubes. Personally, I don't think they look the greatest, so, I don't know who'd want them on just for appearances' sake. I certainly could be wrong though. Just passing on my personal experience.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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I have some uncoated stainless steel headers. Before I try to get them installed should I do anything about heat?? There is no ceramic coating and the spark plugs are right there. A lot of the headers on the market are sold both coated and uncoated but mine are uncoated, so comments about buying coated headers are useless to me...
The true ceramic coatings offered for headers will offer a dramatic reduction in under hood heat when applied to SS and mild steel headers. SS does transfer heat a little slower than mild steel, but the ceramic coatings offer a dramatic change in heat transfer. Properly coated headers need to coated inside and out. I have used ceramic coated headers on several projects now and will continue. I haven't made up my mind on waiting for a Z06 or getting a C6 Vert later this year, but headers are the first mod and they will most likley be coated LGMs.

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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by C5XTASY
I'm not an expert, but not too sure of that. DRM Motorsports, who's an extremely well-known tuner, puts them on with LG longtubes. Personally, I don't think they look the greatest, so, I don't know who'd want them on just for appearances' sake. I certainly could be wrong though.
I think he meant/implied that the header coating was for appearance only, NOT the kool socks.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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I think he meant/implied that the header coating was for appearance only, NOT the kool socks.
You are right. I was thinking of Kool Sox, not the coating. I should have read a little closer. Thanks!
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If you're worried about the heat, send them off to be ceramic coated....that's what I did. I think it cost me around $250.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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I have Stainless Works headers on my 02 - they are not coated and I have no problem with heat. I use the stock heat shields around the plugs and they work fine.
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Stainless steel Kooks here and no heat issues.
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Stainless does alot better job of insulating that most headers!
As with all non-stainless and Stainless I recomend Ceramic coating them! Do not sure header wrap! This will eventually warp the headers!

It would also be a good Idea if you have the $ to get them ceramic coated unless you care more for looks than performance!

Ceramic coating works only if you car gets driven for more than 20 mins say 2 times a week! So if you have or are getting LTs and you have a Daily driver this is a MUST!
It holds the heat in those header when they become really hot! say driving on the high way or just running your car for an extended peroid of time...longer than 20 mins in most cases!

I can ceramic coat any set of Long Tubes for $188!!!
This includes coating inside and out, 3 yr labor warranty, limited lifetime rust warranty, and all preping required!

LET ME KNOW!

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Originally Posted by redbullapril23
Stainless does alot better job of insulating that most headers!
As with all non-stainless and Stainless I recomend Ceramic coating them! Do not sure header wrap! This will eventually warp the headers!

It would also be a good Idea if you have the $ to get them ceramic coated unless you care more for looks than performance!

Ceramic coating works only if you car gets driven for more than 20 mins say 2 times a week! So if you have or are getting LTs and you have a Daily driver this is a MUST!
It holds the heat in those header when they become really hot! say driving on the high way or just running your car for an extended peroid of time...longer than 20 mins in most cases!

I can ceramic coat any set of Long Tubes for $188!!!
This includes coating inside and out, 3 yr labor warranty, limited lifetime rust warranty, and all preping required!

LET ME KNOW!

thanks alot your friend
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Too bad you aren't in Minnesota. That would work for me.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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well we get all our orders via Fed ex/ups. You pay shipping usually total coat for shipping is less than $30! It also only takes 3-5 buisness days once we recieve them!
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jet hott charges $289-319 to do the same set of headers and they also charge shipping! And my warranty is better!
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettebob1
Properly designed SS headers will not require the addition of kool socks
there will be more clearence then with the stock manifolds.
SS headers transfer much less heat then mild steel and don't rust so coating them is a waste of money except for appearences.
I respectfully disagree. Stainless does rust. Just takes a little longer and they rust from the inside out, so you won't see it until you get a pinhole. It is a myth to say stainless doesn't rust. Ask any boater? Best bet for longivity is go with a Jet Hot type coating
of Sterling Silver. The place where I get mine done, Olympic Coatings, puts a lifetime guarantee on a new headers. I am getting a new set of Dynatechs (SS)this week and they are going straight in for coating. Helps heat too but mainly for longivity.

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Check out: http://www.jet-hot.com
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Originally Posted by 2KREDVert
I respectfully disagree. Stainless does rust. Just takes a little longer and they rust from the inside out, so you won't see it until you get a pinhole. It is a myth to say stainless doesn't rust. As any boater? Best bet for longivity is go with a Jet Hot type coating
of Sterling Silver. The place where I get mine done, Olympic Coatings, puts a lifetime guarantee on a new headers. I am getting a new set of Dynatechs (SS)this week and they are going straight in for coating. Helps heat too but mainly for longivity.
It kind of depends on the quality and carbon content of the stainless steel. True 304 stainless, which Dynatech, and perhaps others, use, is high quality, low carbon, stainless steel which shouldn't rust. It is used in many, very high tech applications. If the manufacturing process of the 304 stainless is held to strict quality control standards, you should never have to worry about rusting issues (in our lifetime, anyway).
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I give a lifetime warranty on my coatings as well!!!!
included at no extra cost!
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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agian My email for those of you who keep PMin me is
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jet hott is way to expensive!!!!!
the quoated me $289 for the same coating I do for $188!
and for c5 headers they charge over $300 for some to coat!
I still charge $188

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Originally Posted by WolfeBros
Stainless steel Kooks here and no heat issues.
i have the same...msd wires koolsocks and SW headers uncoated...not a burned wire yet
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