Noam Tasini

What do you think would be the usual/average gain in HP and torque from LT headers, Xpipe and a good Chuck Cow tune?
Not interested in cam currently or CAI.
Stock Z06 with K@N and Borla Stingers.

spdislife

I picked up about 30 when mine was done.

MY03C5Z

Why would you do LT's and a tune and not a cai? It's all about getting more air in and out.

04silverZ06

I agree - at the very least the zip tie mod.

Noam Tasini

Too many unfortunate stories of Codes , leaning out , faulty MAF sensors. Not sure I'd want the hassle for a few HP.
What's the Zip Tie mod?

dbgoodwin

Those stories usually come when people don't get a tune.

The zip tie mod is basically where you remove the airbox cover and zip tie the filter to the back of the airbox.

Seriously get a decent intake and you shouldn't have any issues with leaning out or anything, with a good tune.

MVR 155

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

With a proper tune you have about a zero chance of getting any kind of codes from an intake.

With an intake, I would expect you to see 385-390rwhp on a Dynojet

MY03C5Z

No point in doing LT's and a tune and not adding a cai. They all work together. As others have mentioned cai's only throw codes when they aren't tuned properly. My VR cai threw codes when I installed it without a tune. After I added LT's had it tuned for both mods and no more codes. Those 3 mods will add close to 30whp.

Noam Tasini

I appreciate all your solid advice guys. I'd tune it regardless. It's the proper way of taking all these mods in and maximizing their potential. . 30 HP is extremely nice for $1500.
Is Chuck Cow a good tune? I'm in Vegas. Not many tuners here .🤔

bwill03z

I can vouch for a 30whp gain. Vararam, long tubes, xpipe here and I put down 392whp with a dyno tune... and that was with the stock ti axle back. I later swapped for Borla Atak mufflers and prob picked up a few more hp

grantv

I used Texas Speed, mail tune. But then my car is put away for winters. ECS also has a good rep.
Are you doing a mail order tune?

Noam Tasini

I'm open to both obviously. It's just I reckon Vegas is slim pickings on tuners. (Admittedly haven't really checked). California, Texas - there's loads.
Plus price is important too. I'd take a reputable mail tune for $300 over dyno at $700 any day. Especially for the simplicity, relatively speaking, of the aforementioned parts I want bolted on. .

Noam Tasini

How much were you guys all in btw?
Headers, CAI, Xpipe, tune and labor?

0Chuck CoW

There's so much more to a tune than HORSEPOWER....

Where you live you have hot temperatures and low octane fuel.

I would absolutely install a VARARAM (frequently sold with our tune package) cold air intake. Most others don't work

nearly as good.

Some of the many benefits are cooler temps, fantastic throttle response, and low end power.

Not to mention, this is not your average "mail order tune" where you get a tune and "hope it works"....

Our package comes with the AutoCal device that allows us to datalog and re tune any amount of times necessary to make

sure that the car runs it's best and most importantly SAFE without leaving a bunch of power on the table.

There is no better mail order tuning package and if you modify the car later (ie headers for instance) I will re-tune your

car TOTALLY FOR FREE.

Call any time if you want to know more.

914-332-0049
Chuck CoW

Noam Tasini

Thanks for your reply Chuck 😊. Obviously reliability , support, and bespoke tuning to each individual is key.
Vararam claim on their site 10% increase from just a CAI.
That seems, to put it mildly, horse #@&& . That's 40 HP/40 lbs on our vehicles from just an intake??? 😯
I've been in this game for 22 years now. Am I missing something?

0Chuck CoW

Hot climate, altitude, and or 87 octane fuel it will never do what they claim, but Sea Level, moderate climate and temps,

and 93 or 94 octane with a good tune..... It's not BS at all.

Trust me.... You can't feel 8 or 10 hp difference in tune from the best to the worst tuner.... And it should not matter....

In Fact, it doesn't.... I made my first post for a reason.

Shopping HORSEPOWER promises and claims in this business will get you nowhere fast.

On the other hand.... ALL TUNES and TUNERS ARE NOT THE SAME.


As I said.... There's sooo much more to a GOOD TUNE or the BEST TUNE than we could get into here.

Again, HP numbers alone do not make "GOOD" or "BAD" or "AVERAGE" tune.

A package like mine for instance, is complete and comes with the best and least expensive remote tuning / logging tool there is....

Two tunes can make exactly the same peak HP number and still one tune vs. the other can have massive changes in

safety, driveability, ZING, and RELIABILITY.

There are 100 options for you to save money on tunes... and most people will take those routes because they

simply do not know better.....

On the other hand.... There's lots of people that shop for documented results rather than price.

It's like shopping for a diamond or a house....

Bottom dollar price should not be your primary goal.

Chuck CoW

acarroll7715

There's plenty of great tuners here...my car is being tuned right now by Frank at Revolution Street Cars. Other good LS tuners are Doc's (guy who is on Counts Customs tv show) and Leading Edge. I'd stay away from Sin City performance, seen some crap tunes come out of there.

Noam Tasini

Good Vegas feedback buddy. Thanks.
How much is a tune by these tuners aprox ?

DOUG @ ECS

How about $149 then? I do several of these tunes per day, feel free to take a look at our mail order tuning thread.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nly-149-a.html

grantv

3 years ago by memory:
TSP headers = $500 + freight
CAI (used) = around $150
X = $100 (Magnaflow)
Cats = $200 (Magnaflow metal)
TSP tune = $150
Labor to fit X to existing mid section = around $200? (if I were to do again I'd buy a complete mid with cats)
Labor to install = free; me