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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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It’s probably anybody’s guess at this point, but does anyone know if the 06-paddle shifter will shift on the snap or be a delayed shift? How do other manufacturers have them set? For me, if it doesn’t shift on the snap, it will be just a cool gadget and the mn6 will be the way to go.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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It probably will not. MB has the sportiest hydraulic based autos in the world - and even they don't shift in a snap.

Now, BMW SMG will shift this way, but that is because it is a clutch based tranny
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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They are having paddle shifters?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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That is the difference between Paddle shifting automatic and Paddle shiffting SMG which is a manual with an automatic clutch. Those also have an automatic mode but it is a manual that can shift faster than you can. That is what, I think, a Corvette deserves.
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most likely, it will be slower than you expect. i would go with the manual 6sp. i've driven a cayenne turbo with the push button and that by far is the fastest shift with an auto heel-toe downshift bonus. i've also driven an Audi RS6 and that was a tad slower than the cayenne. i've also been fortunate enough to try a maserati w/ the paddle shift (which is a manual based shift) and i felt like that was the worst - slower than i expected and hard shifts during hard throttle. you should test drive some paddle-shifted cars before you really make a decision. for me, i'll always go manual. the shifts maybe faster than any normal person shifting, but it's much more fun to shift manually - just my $.02. good luck with your decision.
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most likely, it will be slower than you expect. i would go with the manual 6sp. i've driven a cayenne turbo with the push button and that by far is the fastest shift with an auto heel-toe downshift bonus. i've also driven an Audi RS6 and that was a tad slower than the cayenne. i've also been fortunate enough to try a maserati w/ the paddle shift (which is a manual based shift) and i felt like that was the worst - slower than i expected and hard shifts during hard throttle. you should test drive some paddle-shifted cars before you really make a decision. for me, i'll always go manual. the shifts maybe faster than any normal person shifting, but it's much more fun to shift manually - just my $.02. good luck with your decision.
The Maserati shifter is basically a Ferrari shifter with a slightly modified algorithim. I drove it in the Maserati Quatroporte and it was smoother than early Ferrari ones which clicked and clonked in stop and go traffic, but a bute on the open roads and you're right it does shift a lot faster than any human, but not as much fun as doing it yourself with the manual.
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Originally Posted by 4CEE
It’s probably anybody’s guess at this point, but does anyone know if the 06-paddle shifter will shift on the snap or be a delayed shift? How do other manufacturers have them set? For me, if it doesn’t shift on the snap, it will be just a cool gadget and the mn6 will be the way to go.
No snap shifts because it is an automatic with a torque converter. The snap shifts are accomplished with sequential manual transmissions that are electro hydraulically actuated. That was mouth full! I had that type of tranny in my previous car and the shifts are lightning quick, but can also be quite brutal in their execution. The quickness of the shifts are however dependant on the engines RPM's: quick shifts above 3000, but painfully slow below 3000. Once you understand the weakness of the technology you can compensate by making certain that you are in the sweet zone of the RPM range. It is fantastic for track use and or mountain switch backing, but for impromptu racing it can be embarrassing if you are caught below 3000 RPM. :cheers
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Originally Posted by carjon
That is the difference between Paddle shifting automatic and Paddle shiffting SMG which is a manual with an automatic clutch. Those also have an automatic mode but it is a manual that can shift faster than you can. That is what, I think, a Corvette deserves.
If it's like the SMG, I'm in for sure!
Nothing like having your cake and eat it too.
Auto shifting, including downshift rev matching, and runs quicker than the manual 6 spd. I'd be in Vette heaven!
Unfortunately, I don't think that we'll get this.
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Wonder if a shift kit can be designed to firm up and quicken the shifts in the upcoming Automatic/manumatic torque convertor A6 tranny?

I believe the C5 shift kit for the A4 is about a hundred dollars plus labor..

Probably a hell of a way to go if the shift can be installed without freaking out the pcm.

Anybody know the rear gear axle ratio?
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This is probably going to be what you will get... It's already in the parts bin.. little to no fab work, design or testing...

No thanks, give me a real 6 speed with 3 pedals and a gear shift..

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Any more opinions on a shift kit correcting any delayed shifting? I’ve installed transkits in the past that if I recall correctly, offered a manual shift programming option.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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I didnt realize they planned on producing paddle shifting C6's. that is bad azzzzzzz. I love the high tech stuff
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Originally Posted by whompus
I didnt realize they planned on producing paddle shifting C6's. that is bad azzzzzzz. I love the high tech stuff
I don't know, since they still seem to be having issues with things such as crank pulley bolts, batteries and basic electronics, I don't know that I'd want them messing with something that requires more microprocessors and has more things to go wrong. I'll stick with my MN6 thank you.
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Originally Posted by whompus
I didnt realize they planned on producing paddle shifting C6's. that is bad azzzzzzz. I love the high tech stuff
I really don't consider a push button automatic high tech.... more gimmicky than anything else....

Now a paddle shifted manual would be high tech... but I seriously doubt you will see one on the Vette....
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
Anybody know the rear gear axle ratio?
All info thus far points to a 2.56 rear (lower tranny gears allow that) but hopefully it will be (numerically) higher or there will be an optional axle ratio available.
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On second thought, altering with a trans kit would likely void the warranty. So I won’t be going there. Looks like the mn6 will be the best for road course and khana/autocross while the auto6 would be better for bracket racing.
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