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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Of some note, when I went from my 04 C5 to my C6 my insurance went DOWN on a newer more expensive vehicle! I asked my agent and she said better saftey ratings.

If that doesn't sit well with you, look at getting the optional side air bags...I think they come with the 1sb package. I have them.

Bottom line, it is a corvette. You are more exposed in this than a Tahoe...but not much more than an accord. However, you are not likely to being going as fast in an accord.
Y'know - i'm not so sure. If you look at iihs.org under publications, you can see actual $$'s paid out in juries in a corvette per injury. Per injury - it is less than a Taho.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Guys, side impact beams became required by all cars back in the 90's. It's the law, the government made all car makers put them in. Stop worrying if the corvette has it because the answer is yes.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Here's the Injury, Collision, and Theft scores for the C5 by Liberty Mutual.
http://www.libertymutual.com/omapps/ContentServer
The Injury rating is quite low. The one that scares me is the Theft rating.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Frankly, I don't know what assurances can be had. GM tests the cars to meet current government crash specifications. One of the cars involved in those tests is exhibited at the NCM. Both DOL and the Insurance Safety Institute do their own tests on models they select. Neither group has tested a Vette in recent history - hardly a Vette issue. The passive safety features of the Vette: good brakes, low center of gravity, etc are positive factors. It's my experience, and that of a lot of body shops, that Vettes can take a LOT of punishment. The frame is robust and the body structure is stiff, and rarely bends, even when totaled. Can you run under a semi - sure, right up to the point that you hit the trucks' wheel. I consider the Vette, along with the DBs pretty safe sports cars. But I don't have empirical evidence to support that opinion. I wouldn't drive a car of any kind that I didn't believe was as safe as any in the class. (think Miata)
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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If you want to be really, really safe, buy a large dump truck.

A Corvette is what it is. Many people have survived frightening crashes in them. Are you perhaps being a bit obsessive?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Interestingly, I've been talking to Kerbeck. Their dealers confirmed that the the side impact beams were continued on the c6. That, of course, makes an awful lot of sense.

I'd love to find out more about the rollover strength on the convertible. That's frankly the key difference for me.
Kerbeck should also tell you that the windshield frame in a C6 functions as a roll bar and will support the car inverted.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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I think you are too worried about this and should consider something else.
  • The horsepower is tremendous and can get you into a lot of trouble fast
  • The C6 draws a lot of attention and can distract drivers around you (don't laugh, it has happened to me several times and it wasn't due to my dashing good looks!)
  • Any light sports car is inherently less safe than other choices.

This car wasn't built for people who are overly concerned with safety. It was built for thrill and performance. You loose some of your safetynet if you want to have fun.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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I have carried all my kids in my car. More than carried them, gave them a thrill ride. They are all grown now but it doesnt matter, their still my babies. Life is short, you never know when its gonna be checkout time. Dont squander the days. Its the way I live and what I taught my own.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by carthinker
Y'know - i'm not so sure. If you look at iihs.org under publications, you can see actual $$'s paid out in juries in a corvette per injury. Per injury - it is less than a Taho.
Interesting.

I wonder if that was dollars awarded to passengers of the Vette/Tahoe or people hit by a vette/tahoe? If it was the latter, I could see that because a Tahoe is going to do far more damage than a vette.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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It was $$'s/injury in a Corvette. It is a VERY VERY low #. Strangely, even lower for the convertible than the coupe.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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If you are too concerned about safety this is not the car for you. In fact any sports car is wrong for all the same reasons. Your needs and wants appear to be in conflict.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Everyone seems to be missing something.

The most important factor in the safety of a vehicle is the ability of the driver and vehicle to AVOID the accident to start with. A good driver in a high performance car is the safest vehicle on the road.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Everyone seems to be missing something.

The most important factor in the safety of a vehicle is the ability of the driver and vehicle to AVOID the accident to start with. A good driver in a high performance car is the safest vehicle on the road.
Just 2 words -- or actually 2 1/2

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And the EMTs can use the side impact door beam to lever the 4.6 liter Ford V-8 off your nuts.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:19 AM
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As my wife prefers to drive: Go Volvo if safety is that important.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by carthinker
It was $$'s/injury in a Corvette. It is a VERY VERY low #. Strangely, even lower for the convertible than the coupe.
I don't think the chart showed dollars awarded by a jury but rather the incidence of injury producing accidents. While the number is impressively low for the Corvette, the definitions indicate "Some vehicles (e.g., sports cars) can have low injury claim frequencies but a high relative rate of severe or fatal injuries because of the manner in which they’re driven." Once again, it is the loose nut behind the wheel that most significantly influences vehicle safety.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by carthinker
Interestingly, I've been talking to Kerbeck. Their dealers confirmed that the the side impact beams were continued on the c6. That, of course, makes an awful lot of sense.

I'd love to find out more about the rollover strength on the convertible. That's frankly the key difference for me.
According to a book on C6's that I bought at the museum during the cruise-in, the windshield header was designed to act as rollover protection on the convertibles. Naturally, I would think a convertible would not be as safe in a rollover......but like the crash test dummies, I'd need more money before I'd try it.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay_Davis
Everyone seems to be missing something.

The most important factor in the safety of a vehicle is the ability of the driver and vehicle to AVOID the accident to start with. A good driver in a high performance car is the safest vehicle on the road.


Often, a performance car with "slow" driver is the safest vehicle on the road and that is why accident rates are fairly low. Most Corvettes are driven below the speed limit and at least 400 feet from the car/truck in front. Don't want no nasty paint chips!
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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The C6 Convertible meets current federal roof crush standards(which convertibles are NOT required to meet) due to the strength of the windshield frame. This was reported in Motor Trend's preview of the C6 vert (issue April 2004), for whatever that's worth.

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