Keyless System could be a Nightmare

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Aug 7, 2005 | 07:04 PM
  #41  
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No keys! I'm thinking WTF! Then I realized that my wife must of had the keys in her purse and that is how the car started.
This is the root of the problem. You need to take your fobs out of your wife's purse and put them back in your pants.
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Aug 7, 2005 | 07:10 PM
  #42  
Quote: Play It Safe, Put The Fob On The Roof Of The Townhouse


But I can't get to the roof, so can I leave it in the car?
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Aug 7, 2005 | 08:40 PM
  #43  
Quote: We could invent a fob watch or fob creditcard. Little bigger then a regular creditcard but always in your wallet with your license

No seriously I love the keyless I have had the car since Nov and not one problem on wood.

The first Merc Keyless go system actually came as a credit card! They have since gone to a keylike system which is what I have....

Also if you use the key to open the hatch -- there is a pull on the left side for the front door so you dont have to crawl in through the hatch....
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Aug 7, 2005 | 09:00 PM
  #44  
Quote: Mercedes has it down pat. The key fits in the ignition if you need it to start the car,,,,,or just leave it in your pocket and press the starter on the shift lever.

When I bought my first C6 last year I was surprised that there wasn't an ignition to start the car.....a backup system like the Benz.
Another of those threads. There is a back-up system to insert the fob in a slot in the glove-box to start the car. But, if you've forgotten both key and fob, you're equally SOL.

How can you lock yourself in the car with the manual release door handles by the the door sill?
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Aug 7, 2005 | 09:20 PM
  #45  
After reading this thread, I think I'll just stick my head out the window, & yell "I'm just not going to take this anymore!!!"
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Aug 7, 2005 | 10:08 PM
  #46  
Quote: You are my idol. You are the first person I have ever known that has never forgotten anything. I tip my hat to you.
Not allowed!
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Aug 7, 2005 | 11:01 PM
  #47  
keyless entry/start is one of the BEST new features of the vette. I really miss the convenience when I am driving my truck. It is so antiquated to have to pull keys out push a button to unlock the doors, stick them in to start the car, use them to turn the car off and have to pull them out and manually lock the doors etc. -- this is the next logical evolution.
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Aug 7, 2005 | 11:37 PM
  #48  
locked in
i did press the unlock door rocker switch. no good without the fob i guess i just didn't exist. i like it that way. if all you have to do is use the unlock rocker switch anyone can have access to the car with either the windows or top down so the fact that the doors wouldn't unlock was actually a good feature i'm sure i could have opened the doors by using the emergency cables but it was easier just to climb out so it all comes down to don't forget your fob and all will be fine
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Aug 8, 2005 | 02:06 AM
  #49  
Quote: I park my C5 in the garage and leave the keys in the ignition. Can I leave the fob in the car at night? If not, I am in a townhouse. If I take the fob out and leave it in the kitchen on the 2nd floor, is that OK, or do I need to take it all the way to the third floor?

--Tor
If you leave it in the car then anyone can get it and drive it off. Not the safest plan.

The FOB's prescence is not determined soley by signal strength. There are 3 FOB antennas that use triangulation to determine the location of the unit so it knows the FOB has left the general vicinity irregardless of which floor you leave it on.

Try this: Leave the FOB inside at the location that is closest to the car, like on the ground floor in the nearest room to your parking slot. Then go outside and see if you can enter or start the car. I doubt you will be able to. Nothing ilke a good test to prove it to yourself.
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Aug 8, 2005 | 02:17 AM
  #50  
Quote: I park my C5 in the garage and leave the keys in the ignition. Can I leave the fob in the car at night? If not, I am in a townhouse. If I take the fob out and leave it in the kitchen on the 2nd floor, is that OK, or do I need to take it all the way to the third floor?

--Tor

FOB my right pocket, lean in and try to get accessory mode on - that doesn't even work. If you are near the trunk and someone tries to start the car - it won't start. Just leave the fob on a key rack.

Also, the trunk won't push button open if the FOB is in the passenger compartment - just a little to far away.



JK
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Aug 8, 2005 | 05:18 AM
  #51  
Quote: DIC: driver error
Or maybe it should read... Got FOB?
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Aug 8, 2005 | 06:42 AM
  #52  
Quote: We could invent a fob watch or fob creditcard. Little bigger then a regular creditcard but always in your wallet with your license

No seriously I love the keyless I have had the car since Nov and not one problem on wood.

I like your fob credit card idea. Although I'm always forgetting my wallet Crap, I guess I'm heading for an implant too.
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Aug 8, 2005 | 07:19 AM
  #53  
The solution is to have the fob surgically implanted.
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Aug 8, 2005 | 07:27 AM
  #54  
Interesting thread...

My keys (& fob) never leave my pocket (almost). I'm either in/out of the house thru the garage or the front has an electronic/combo lock (no keys required). I may take them out to get into a clients office, or open my PO Box. Aside from that I never take em out. Separate keyring for the Harley, and I leave the Vette keys home. NO ONE ELSE ever gets to drive (except the dealer & they get fob-2), it never gets valet'd or "leant out" (yeah RIGHT).

The comment about "triangulation" is correct - the fob has to be in the correct position to operate the respective function (ignition, doors, trunk, etc.).

I know I'm not as OLD (45) as most of the folks here , hopefully the alzheimers will pass me by...

Rick
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Aug 8, 2005 | 08:58 AM
  #55  
Quote: If you leave it in the car then anyone can get it and drive it off. Not the safest plan.

The FOB's prescence is not determined soley by signal strength. There are 3 FOB antennas that use triangulation to determine the location of the unit so it knows the FOB has left the general vicinity irregardless of which floor you leave it on.

Try this: Leave the FOB inside at the location that is closest to the car, like on the ground floor in the nearest room to your parking slot. Then go outside and see if you can enter or start the car. I doubt you will be able to. Nothing ilke a good test to prove it to yourself.
No, I don't leave the keys in the ignition always, only when parked at home in MY garage. I have read that it is bad to leave the fob in the car even in the garage because the battery can run down, car lock itself, etc.

Thanks,

--Tor
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Aug 8, 2005 | 09:10 AM
  #56  
Quote: If I'm driving, I take my fob. Problem solved. Sorry, you asked.

Let's be nice!
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Aug 8, 2005 | 09:14 AM
  #57  
Quote: Sorry, no sympathy here. If your car is operating the way it's supposed to, you should have gotten an error message on the DIC when you tried to shut off the engine. It should have said something to the effect, "No fob, off or run?"

If you didn't get this message, you need to see your dealer. If you did get this message and chose to ignore it, maybe your wife should be driving the car.
sympathy not required ...but ...nice to know these facts...I think I will check this one out on JamiC6...
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Aug 8, 2005 | 09:15 AM
  #58  
Quote: I wouldn't say the keyless system is a nightmare. I actually think it is a very nice feature. Bottom line is this is an example of user error and although MAY happen, it is not likely to happen. You could say the same thing about a key.... I went to [fill in the blank] and when I came out I realized I somehow lost my keys. You still have the same problem here.

Lets not go bashing the new technology just because there might be some way to have a problem in the future with it.
I never said it was a nightmare. I said it could be a nightmare, especially after what happened to me. I never said I didn't like the system. I did not bash the technology. Please read the post!! I just stated a scenario which happened to me and a lot of people either misunderstood or just wanted to blow the whole thing out of proportion. In the future, I will be very careful about what I say here.
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Aug 8, 2005 | 10:57 AM
  #59  
Test Drive Gone Wrong
I had a funny experience with this when I was test driving my Vette. The dealer let me take it home to show my wife, and they pulled it up to the front door with the engine running. I drove it home (about 6 miles), and when I pushed the button to shut it off, I got the message: "No fob detected -- stop or run?" Without thinking, I pushed the button again to stop the engine. Then it dawned on me -- the fob was at the dealer. Sure enough, we couldn't start the car. When I called the dealer, the saleslady said "We were wondering when you would call. . . . "
They drove the fob out to me, and I made a mental note to read these dash messages carefully and THINK before responding in the future.
(By the way, my wife loved the car, and we're really glad we bought it.)
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Aug 8, 2005 | 12:32 PM
  #60  
Quote: Here is what happened to me yesterday. My wife and I drove to a restaraunt. I dropped my wife off at the entrance of the restaraunt. I went and parked the car (miles away) from everyone else. I shut the car off and went to lock it. No keys! I'm thinking WTF! Then I realized that my wife must of had the keys in her purse and that is how the car started. What if I drove 50 miles away before realizing I did not have the keys? Has anyone else had a similar experience. This freaked me out!

Rich
Yes, it happened to me. My wife had the keys in her purse and I wasn't planning on driving, so I left my keys at home. I ended up driving and dropped her off at her location (instead of the planned other way around). I was a good 20 miles down the road before I realized I didn't have the keys.

However, when you turn the car off with no fobs in the car, it says "No fobs detected, off or run?" So you can restart it without the fob -- but only for a short period of time.
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