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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BuffCat
No. For now the LS2 seems to be the perfect fit for the C6. Of course once the Z06 hits the streets, standard C6's will be the smaller engine option Now a snappy 327 in a modern Camaro, would be a nice low cost alternative.

Exactly! I already have the "low buck"/"low power" version of the C6.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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..Need more power!
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by larrysb
I've owned a C5 for a few years, I find the power satisfactory. Horsepower of course, is the sizzle that sells cars. But after you've had the Corvette a few years, it's just part of what makes it a great car. One thing that is not lost on me these days is that it actually gets reasonably good mileage

So my question to you C6 owners and prospective C6 owners: Would you consider buying the C6 with an optional, smaller engine?

I'm not talking POS, dog-meat, slow motor. But something light, with good power and torque, maybe 5.2 litre (like a 327).

Just curious what y'all think.
Only if it comes standard with a rear deck wing and lots of stickers.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
Torque requires DISPLACEMENT--need I say more?
... or forced induction. NA engines are capped at a max of ~1.5 ft-lb per CI of displacement. FI engines can go way beyond that.

If they offered a smaller FI'd engine with more horsepower, same or better gas mileage and the same wide powerband I'd jump on it (cause I'm not the modding type).
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Black04Vert
... or forced induction.
I will give you that.
NA engines are capped at a max of ~1.5 ft-lb per CI of displacement.
At sea level.
FI engines can go way beyond that.
How does one distinquish FI as Fuel Injection from FI as Forced Induction?
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Take away the power it wouldn't be a whole vet only part of one.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by StrayDog
NO NO NO,a C6 is in my future & I have a 1966 big/block ... I love tourque > with the efficincy of the C6 engine as well as outstanding fuel mileage no need for less cu in , we are Americans not Frenchmen (are they really men)
Stray Dog,

This is off target.. but the answer to your Q is... No, they are NOT!

BTW, the French have raised their "National Alert Status" from "Run" to "Hide" due to the bombings in London. Of course, they still have two higher threat levels.. they are: "Surrender" and "Collaborate"!

Back on topic... NO. Give me more power!
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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The MAIN reason I am buying a new C6 is because of the "large" displcement engine. No other set-up will deliver the same level of strong yet smooth torque, especially in the lower rpm range. For daily street use, it's ALL about low-mid range torque. If you can't have that, the car is not worth driving.

If the Vette had a smaller engine I would not spend the big bucks on it. In fact, I was once a Mustang fan, but that teeny-tiny 4.6 V8 engine just doesn't do it for me, it's WEAK. Even with a supercharger - which does make it very fast - but it's just not the same as a normally aspirated larger displacment engine.

If they drop the discplacment down to anything below 350 cubic inches or so, I won't buy it. 6.0 liter seems to be a perfect size for the C6 - perfect compromise between power and efficiency. It works quite nicely. And I envy those who can afford the new 7.0!!!

Chevy, PLEASE do not get any ideas about downsizing displacement... you'll force me to look elsewhere for a new car. I will not spend money on a smaller engine with low levels of low-end torque. I'd rather do without a "performance car" altogether if it will not make loads of smooth low-end torque. I'll go back to riding motorcycles or whatever.

These little 4-banger rice-burner "performance cars" are a joke really... no offense. You have to keep the engine near redline ALL the time if you want to have an enjoyable ride. Just doesn't work! Might be ok for track racing, but NOT good for STREET use.
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Originally Posted by larrysb
Would you consider buying the C6 with an optional, smaller engine?
Nope
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Yes. As long has it has more low to mid range torque and more HP.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Yes ,Fuel iwill continue to rise in cost and GM will be forced to build smaller engines or design one to run on an alternative fuel.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Keep the engine BIG!
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Absoutely NOT! But....Gm could offer engine packages or enhancements say a 425 hp version & 450 Hp version besides the Z06
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Noleman
Stray Dog,

This is off target.. but the answer to your Q is... No, they are NOT!

BTW, the French have raised their "National Alert Status" from "Run" to "Hide" due to the bombings in London. Of course, they still have two higher threat levels.. they are: "Surrender" and "Collaborate"!

Back on topic... NO. Give me more power!
I thought their highest alert level was "Let the Americans do it...they're not afraid!"
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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i am going to pull my ls2 and put a 4 banger in cause i think i might be able to get better gas mileage the car will be lighter then too i think the weight will make up for the power? right?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
Actually, what makes people smile that smile is Torque TQ is what flings you into the rear seat cushion! HP takes the credit.

Torque requires DISPLACEMENT--need I say more?
Torque is useless to the seat of your pants without work (HP), so you could argue the other way. You can have lots of torque with zero movement. So one could easily argue that the HP is what puts you back in the seat because work is being done so you have motion and therefore acceleration has occurred. Look at it this way you can have TQ without HP (no work done) but can't have HP without TQ. But I understand your point that the Torque is the force and it's curve is the one that closely matches your car's acceleration curve, so I'll agree with you Torque is the number I find more useful of the two.

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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I dunno, I'd consider a smaller engine option, especially if there was a positive tradeoff in performance, like saving a hundred pounds of weight. Shedding weight is at least as effective as adding power, with the bonus of improved handling.

It just seems like there are tradeoffs of power/weight/economy/performance that could still make a very satisfactory Corvette.

A smaller lighter mill, with good power and torque and economy could be pretty cool.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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The 400 hp is already the smaller engine compared to the 500 hp Z06. In other words....NO NO NO.
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