Will 05 be like 58?
08-22-2005, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Silver C6 Z51
The changes from '05 to '06 are too subtle to be a consideration in the history of the C6.
2006 gets the introduction of new colors, new style steering wheel, hidden antenna, upgraded interior,elimination of the MN6 park in R or walk feature, tightened rag top, tuned suspension, 6 speed auto transmission.
Too subtle?
What do you want? Cold fusion?!
08-22-2005, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
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Originally Posted by ben dover
The number of '58s produced was probably about 10% of the 05 production.
thats the key.....
That's only a part of the key.
The other part is that today there are many like us here, who would place value on a nice '58. It remains a collectible icon that many would compete for. As nice as my '05 is to me today, there are too many choices and similar cars out there now. It's just become too much like a commodity. In 45 years I can't imagine anyone placing much iconic value on even a nice '05.
Originally Posted by ben dover
The number of '58s produced was probably about 10% of the 05 production.
thats the key.....
That's only a part of the key.
The other part is that today there are many like us here, who would place value on a nice '58. It remains a collectible icon that many would compete for. As nice as my '05 is to me today, there are too many choices and similar cars out there now. It's just become too much like a commodity. In 45 years I can't imagine anyone placing much iconic value on even a nice '05.
08-22-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette SSX
With the items you mentioned, I think the 05 is more akin to the 84.
Totally disagree and nothing could be further from the truth.
Its already been stated that two of the items mentioned by the original poster where options.
Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the Corvette. I suspect that we will see the LS2 for a while. The 1984 Vette was widely regarded as underpowered and was known to have had so many pre production problems that there was no 1983 model for sale to the general public.
The Crossfire fuel injected engine of the 1984 produced a whopping 205 hp @ 4300 rpm and 290 ft/lbs of torque. @ 2800 rpm.
Its painful to calculate what that turns out to be at the rear wheels.
The 1984 is the Edsel of Corvettes.
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08-22-2005, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Totally disagree and nothing could be further from the truth.
Its already been stated that two of the items mentioned by the original poster where options.
Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the Corvette. 1984 Vette was widely regarded as underpowered and was known to have had so many pre production problems that there was no 1983 model for sale to the general public.
The 1984 is the Edsel of Corvettes.
Its already been stated that two of the items mentioned by the original poster where options.
Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the Corvette. 1984 Vette was widely regarded as underpowered and was known to have had so many pre production problems that there was no 1983 model for sale to the general public.
The 1984 is the Edsel of Corvettes.
08-22-2005, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfMoriarty
2006 gets the introduction of new colors, new style steering wheel, hidden antenna, upgraded interior,elimination of the MN6 park in R or walk feature, tightened rag top, tuned suspension, 6 speed auto transmission.
Too subtle?
What do you want? Cold fusion?!
Too subtle?
What do you want? Cold fusion?!
Love my Mag Red so who cares about new colors..three or four spokes - another who cares, upgrade interior???? You mean after one year they are changing it? Please more details.
Like that one elimination can we get that on that on the 05?
Was the suspension on the 05 untuned???? Don't know because I have a Z51 but are they changing that after one year???
Please Prof more details!!!
08-22-2005, 10:43 PM
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Cold Fusion? Yes ,,,, I'll take two of them!
The 1984 model year didn't have a lock on poor equipment. I think in 1978 there was a less than 200 horsepower Vette in California due to emissssssion problems.
Must have been a barrel of monkeys to drive....... 
08-22-2005, 10:50 PM
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Edsel Corvette
I'll take three of those 1958 Edsel Citations with the four barrel giant sized V8. It had pushbutton "paddle shifters" in the middle of the steering wheel hub. A three speed automatic. I think. And a speedometer that changed colors when you went faster. 
The Edsel was no worse than a lot of other prototype "modern" cars of the time. It just cost a lot during a bad recession and was ultra sophisticated for the time. Very complicated with A/C and power everything when most people still shifted from the column and rolled down their own windows to get fresh air!!!!
The Edsel was no worse than a lot of other prototype "modern" cars of the time. It just cost a lot during a bad recession and was ultra sophisticated for the time. Very complicated with A/C and power everything when most people still shifted from the column and rolled down their own windows to get fresh air!!!!
08-22-2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
Considering that two of the items you mentioned where options, and the third (the steering wheel) look fine to most of us, and is easily interchangeable, I don't think it will be an issue. I think the 05 will be like the 97. Five years from now it will be considered a great deal because there were damn few known problems areas on the 05, and they only effected an extremely small number of cars.
08-23-2005, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 green hornet
I'll take three of those 1958 Edsel Citations with the four barrel giant sized V8. It had pushbutton "paddle shifters" in the middle of the steering wheel hub. A three speed automatic. I think. And a speedometer that changed colors when you went faster. The Edsel was no worse than a lot of other prototype "modern" cars of the time. It just cost a lot during a bad recession and was ultra sophisticated for the time. Very complicated with A/C and power everything when most people still shifted from the column and rolled down their own windows to get fresh air!!!!
The Edsel was no worse than a lot of other prototype "modern" cars of the time. It just cost a lot during a bad recession and was ultra sophisticated for the time. Very complicated with A/C and power everything when most people still shifted from the column and rolled down their own windows to get fresh air!!!!
08-23-2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Totally disagree and nothing could be further from the truth.
Its already been stated that two of the items mentioned by the original poster where options.
Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the Corvette. I suspect that we will see the LS2 for a while. The 1984 Vette was widely regarded as underpowered and was known to have had so many pre production problems that there was no 1983 model for sale to the general public.
The Crossfire fuel injected engine of the 1984 produced a whopping 205 hp @ 4300 rpm and 290 ft/lbs of torque. @ 2800 rpm.
Its painful to calculate what that turns out to be at the rear wheels.
The 1984 is the Edsel of Corvettes.
Its already been stated that two of the items mentioned by the original poster where options.
Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the Corvette. I suspect that we will see the LS2 for a while. The 1984 Vette was widely regarded as underpowered and was known to have had so many pre production problems that there was no 1983 model for sale to the general public.
The Crossfire fuel injected engine of the 1984 produced a whopping 205 hp @ 4300 rpm and 290 ft/lbs of torque. @ 2800 rpm.
Its painful to calculate what that turns out to be at the rear wheels.
The 1984 is the Edsel of Corvettes.
Last edited by JoesC5; 08-23-2005 at 02:05 PM.
08-23-2005, 06:35 PM
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Let's face it, most corvette buyers do not know the difference between a 84 or an 85, a 97 or a 98, and in 2 years they wont know the difference between a 05 and a 06. People on this forum are not the typical vette buyers.
08-23-2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The Crossfire fuel injection system was first used in the 1982 Corvette, so it was used in TWO years (and two generations) of the Corvette, and was optional in the 1982 Camaro and Firebird.
"Furthermore, the Cross Fire fuel injected engine of the 84 saw one year in the C4."
08-23-2005, 06:59 PM
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The only problem with that is 'someday' may be 50 years from now. I'll have to save this post so I can read it when I turn 99. 
08-23-2005, 09:15 PM
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Crossfire fuel injection in Vettes and Firebirds?
I bought a 1984 HO Trans Am brand new and ordered it from the factory and remember that it had a "QuadraJet" four barrel carburetor. I sorta remember that fuel injection had been discontinued earlier on the Trans Ams due to poor design on the Firebird which had a Chevy engine . By the way my "Chevy" built Pontiac engine came with a poorly poured block and had a crack in it. It disintegrated at 2400 miles when enough water poured in through the crack and detonated big time when I started it. The LOUDEST ping I have ever heard in my life 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. Talk about the school of hardknocks and a hats off to all the "Cheerleaders" on this forum that think GM can never do wrong.
I was never a "GM" man to start off with so my first one was a humdinger! Did Corvettes have the same garbage then? It's a good thing my 2000 Corvette is "sorta" good because I only give a car company one chance to make good. I just don't have the money to waste at 57 years of age. When my '84 Trans AM "Chevy" V8 engine cracked, GM treated me like pond scum. 21 years later I still remember how they wanted to "blame" me for cracking the block.
Now the internet gives me a chance to level the playing field. Here .. GM take THAT 
. I hope my 2007 C6 is a good one !
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. Talk about the school of hardknocks and a hats off to all the "Cheerleaders" on this forum that think GM can never do wrong. I was never a "GM" man to start off with so my first one was a humdinger! Did Corvettes have the same garbage then? It's a good thing my 2000 Corvette is "sorta" good because I only give a car company one chance to make good. I just don't have the money to waste at 57 years of age. When my '84 Trans AM "Chevy" V8 engine cracked, GM treated me like pond scum. 21 years later I still remember how they wanted to "blame" me for cracking the block.
Now the internet gives me a chance to level the playing field. Here .. GM take THAT . I hope my 2007 C6 is a good one !
08-23-2005, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfMoriarty
2006 gets the introduction of new colors, new style steering wheel, hidden antenna, upgraded interior,elimination of the MN6 park in R or walk feature, tightened rag top, tuned suspension, 6 speed auto transmission.
Too subtle?
What do you want? Cold fusion?!
Too subtle?
What do you want? Cold fusion?!
Chrome accents on the console!?
A six speed auto tranny that skips a couple of gears almost all the time because of all the torque the car possesses!?
Think about this one - no CAGS fix for the auto!