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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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I did a post yesterday or the day before on column lock and the C6. Today I've been reading the post on the colored roofs seperating. I also found a post on the other issues with the C6. Now, understand that I love the looks of the C6 and I'm waiting to hear from the dealer on whether we can come to terms on a new 05 C6 in Victory Red with a 6 spd and both roofs. I have to admit...I'm getting nervous about whether an 05 is the way to go. This roof seperation issue is completely nuts. I'm not sure if the roof seperation issue is resolved on 06 C6's. It appears that the column lock issue is yesterday's news on the 06's. I've had my C5 for just over a year and I haven't had any issues with it. I've put a Corsa Indy exhaust on it, Corsa x-pipe, Blackwing, CAGS and CLB. I'd hate like heck to trade off a perfectly functioning C5 and end up with the various problems the C6 cars seem to be having. Why am I telling you all this? I'm not sure. Maybe I'm wondering if any of you have had any regrets considering the problems listed? Maybe I'm wondering if getting an 06 or 07 makes more sense. Geez! Nuts! Any thoughts, ideas, words of wisdom, etc.? Thanks. Dan
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Have an 05 since February. Not a problem. Runs like a dream. Have Z51 with no squeaky brakes. Car has no rattles. Paint is perfect. Radio works fine. Put route 66 exhaust on to make it sound like a muscle car. Buy it, you'll love it.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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i think u are going to have problems with any car you just read about all of the problems that a few people have and

if you had a poll for cars that had the roof rip off it would be about 17yes -33000no


get the 05 if u like it you should get a good deal on it now
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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I bought my 2005 C6 3 months ago and I'm thrilled! I know, it's only 3 months old with only 2800 miles on it (yeah, I've driven it alot since it was brand new when I got it), but I've had no issues whatsoever. Meanwhile, I almost bought a 2003 C5 two years ago, and in retrospect, I'm very happy I didn't. For the same amount of money, I now have a car with more torque, more horsepower, keyless ignition, HUD, etc., etc., AND I think it's more stylish than the C5 (no offense). Bottom line, the car rocks and I have no regrets. That being said, it's now November, the 2006 models are already rolling off the assembly line, and you might as well get one of those instead (I'm sure they ironed out a few bugs).

Good luck!
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Your question has been asked many times before. The answers, I'm sure, will be the same. In a nutshell...

...most of us have had no or few problems with the 2005 C6. Last poll done showed something like 85% with no serious problems. Those who do have issues will post those problems and look for advice, or will just want to share their experiences with others on the board. Sometimes posts are nothing more than the rants of upset people letting off some steam.

Only a few on this board have encountered true "lemons". It's unfortunate, but it does happen...and it's certainly something not unique to any car brand. The vast majority, who have not had any of the issues frequently discussed here, are not going to start threads like "Hey, nothing went wrong today." So, much of what you read is skewed to the complaint side, and that's the way most boards are.

Even the most commonly discussed issues, such as the battery problems and the roof delamination, are actually not something experienced by most C6 owners. Personally, I can only base my own assessment of the 2005 C6's reliability on my own experience. That experience has been great. I have a very competent dealer and have had only very minor issues with my car. In fact, at this point, I can say it's been one of the most trouble free cars I've owned...and my first car was a 1958 Peugeot 403.

Be aware of the issues that are brought up here, but don't worry about them. The C6 is a very solid car and worth every penny it costs.

One other thought...there are many who actually scour the Internet searching for new problems or complaints. They feel they can be the first to "scoop" the board about a new glitch. Some of these people don't even own a C6 but feel this is a way they can establish credibility on the board. You have to be able to filter out real issues from just nitpicking, third and forth hand info, and plain misinformation and misrepresentation. There's been a lot of that going around lately.
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The c6 is way superior to the c5...I've had no problems.There is a tsb for the top(I think),so if you come to terms then have the dealer fix it right there or replace it,whatever.I've heard of 1 guy on here who had the column lock problem...install the clb if it makes you feel better.good luck.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Very positive responses so far. I appreciate your comments. We'll see what my dealer has to say this week. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Dan
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Your question has been asked many times before. The answers, I'm sure, will be the same. In a nutshell...

...most of us have had no or few problems with the 2005 C6. Last poll done showed something like 85% with no serious problems. Those who do have issues will post those problems and look for advice, or will just want to share their experiences with others on the board. Sometimes posts are nothing more than the rants of upset people letting off some steam.

Only a few on this board have encountered true "lemons". It's unfortunate, but it does happen...and it's certainly something not unique to any car brand. The vast majority, who have not had any of the issues frequently discussed here, are not going to start threads like "Hey, nothing went wrong today." So, much of what you read is skewed to the complaint side, and that's the way most boards are.

Even the most commonly discussed issues, such as the battery problems and the roof delamination, are actually not something experienced by most C6 owners. Personally, I can only base my own assessment of the 2005 C6's reliability on my own experience. That experience has been great. I have a very competent dealer and have had only very minor issues with my car. In fact, at this point, I can say it's been one of the most trouble free cars I've owned...and my first car was a 1958 Peugeot 403.

Be aware of the issues that are brought up here, but don't worry about them. The C6 is a very solid car and worth every penny it costs.




One other thought...there are many who actually scour the Internet searching for new problems or complaints. They feel they can be the first to "scoop" the board about a new glitch. Some of these people don't even own a C6 but feel this is a way they can establish credibility on the board. You have to be able to filter out real issues from just nitpicking, third and forth hand info, and plain misinformation and misrepresentation. There's been a lot of that going around lately.

and much of that kind of talk comes from people who have too much money invested into their C5s and want others to stick with that format as they are stuck in it. They can't move and don't want anyone else to. Misery loves company.

I can honestly say that my C6 has been problem free. If I wanted to nit pick I could say that the first transmission problem I had with my C5 was a result of poor quality, but I won't go there.

Another point is that the '06s have just come out. This time next year the few minor problems which it wil inevitably have will be talked about as well and you will have people saying to wait on the '07.

There were 109 replies in this thread and over 2400 views. Look at what the majority say.

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Being that you have C6 concerns, and have a perfectly good C5, puts you in a good bargaining position, since you can "walk" at any time with no regrets. I had this attitude last month when dealing for a new '05 C6--it paid off. Got LOTS of $ below MSRP. Love the new C6!
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Got a new 05 victory red vert last month olnl have 300 miles no problems and got 700 off!
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The C6 is a POS with tons of problems. Dont get one, eveything will break and you will constantly getting things fixed at the dealer (if they are competent enough to read the TSB that is...)
If you are worreid, dont get one. But I, along with a ton of others here, are loving this awesome car. 5,000 problem free miles.
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As many have stated, there are issues on the '05's - however these are in the minority vs the many owners that have had no problems.

One consideration you should include in your decision - will the 'issues', justified or not, affect the resale value of an '05?

As you know (coming from a C5) there were issues with certain year C5's (I.e., '01's). Although most of the oil consumption issues were resolved, there is a perception that '01's are to be avoided - even though a small number of the total manufactured vehicles were involved.

Many have posted here that the '05's, in the majority, do not have issues (I.e., FRC, DBS, column lock, etc.).

One poster has gone so far as to indicate that problems such as these can be third and forth hand 'knowledge'. In some instances, true.

Keep in mind that it is probable that some posts regarding problems are factual. There are those, however, that tend to hide their heads in the sand - refusing to admit that the issues which are factual (I.e., DBS) are going to affect resale value of their '05's (MN6).

Read the post's very carefully - if you feel comfortable that the probability is that the Vette you are going to acquire will not have the 'issues', then by all means purchase it.

As a note, I had two C6 ('05's) on order. I canceled these after reading of certain issues, and actually meeting many owners who have had issues.

Further, I have a local dealership (whom I purchased 6 C5's from) that is in charge of the service of Vettes. He advised me to wait for the '06's.

Good luck with any decision you make - and keep us apprised.
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Originally Posted by jeffgdula
The C6 is a POS with tons of problems. Dont get one, eveything will break and you will constantly getting things fixed at the dealer (if they are competent enough to read the TSB that is...)
If you are worreid, dont get one. But I, along with a ton of others here, are loving this awesome car. 5,000 problem free miles.
Dan
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
Got a new 05 victory red vert last month olnl have 300 miles no problems and got 700 off!
I assume you mean $7,000
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As many have stated, there are issues on the '05's - however these are in the minority vs the many owners that have had no problems.

One consideration you should include in your decision - will the 'issues', justified or not, affect the resale value of an '05?

As you know (coming from a C5) there were issues with certain year C5's (I.e., '01's). Although most of the oil consumption issues were resolved, there is a perception that '01's are to be avoided - even though a small number of the total manufactured vehicles were involved.

Many have posted here that the '05's, in the majority, do not have issues (I.e., FRC, DBS, column lock, etc.).

One poster has gone so far as to indicate that problems such as these can be third and forth hand 'knowledge'. In some instances, true.

Keep in mind that it is probable that some posts regarding problems are factual. There are those, however, that tend to hide their heads in the sand - refusing to admit that the issues which are factual (I.e., DBS) are going to affect resale value of their '05's (MN6).

Read the post's very carefully - if you feel comfortable that the probability is that the Vette you are going to acquire will not have the 'issues', then by all means purchase it.

As a note, I had two C6 ('05's) on order. I canceled these after reading of certain issues, and actually meeting many owners who have had issues.

Further, I have a local dealership (whom I purchased 6 C5's from) that is in charge of the service of Vettes. He advised me to wait for the '06's.

Good luck with any decision you make - and keep us apprised.

I saw another post of yours concerning "resale value" of the '05 Vette.

I find it odd, ironic.........no, actually funny, that a man with cars modified to the extent that yours are speaks of "resale value." One of the quickest ways to kill resale value ot to modify one's car.

First off anyone buying a late model Corvette with resale value in mind has to look no further than the C5. What is the "resale value" of most C5s out there now.

Secondly, the average potential C5 purchaser probably knows absolutely nothing about the oil consumption issues of the '01s. Nor the piston slap issues seen in virtually every year model of the C5, and the leaky batter issues of the other earlier C5s.

A few people on this board may know about the above issues of the C5, but the avereage guy in your city, looking to buy his first Vette very likely does not.

Finally anyone, if you are worried about "resale value" don't buy a mass produced Corvette at all. Hell they make over 37,000 of them a year.
A prospective used car buyer has many to choose from. Buy an Aston Martin if you are looking at "resale value."
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Originally Posted by EB20003
I saw another post of yours concerning "resale value" of the '05 Vette.
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What, are you having a bad day?

My post was the possible diminished value of the '05 MN6's. Specifically - since GM has not addressed the DBS issue (regardless of how many there are). Further, it appears that GM is not going to address this issue.

Thus, it is probable that there will be a 'negative' associated with the MN6 '05.

This is no difference that the '01 C5's (oil consumption issue). However, GM 'fixed these that were brought to their attention!

As to modding - yep, I do it, to the extreme. I'll also be doing it on the C6's. I do not care about resale issues associated with my modded cars. Don't need to be
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Originally Posted by EB20003
Buy an Aston Martin if you are looking at "resale value."
That's no guarantee either, even a smaller percentage hit on a $200k - $300k+ car will cost you more in actual dollars lost than a bigger percentage loss of original purchase price value on a $50k car.
Look at some used Aston or Bentley (or even Ferrari/Lamborghini) prices, you'd be shocked at just how much money those first owners take sometimes.
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What, are you having a bad day?

My post was the possible diminished value of the '05 MN6's. Specifically - since GM has not addressed the DBS issue (regardless of how many there are). Further, it appears that GM is not going to address this issue.

Thus, it is probable that there will be a 'negative' associated with the MN6 '05.

This is no difference that the '01 C5's (oil consumption issue). However, GM 'fixed these that were brought to their attention!

As to modding - yep, I do it, to the extreme. I'll also be doing it on the C6's. I do not care about resale issues associated with my modded cars. Don't need to be

On the contrary. I am having a very good day.

The DBS issue appears to be nothing more than another example of hysteria as was the crank pulley issue. It has affected a very few cars on this forum. That hardly makes it an epidemic or cause for concern about the " the possible diminished value of the '05 MN6's."

If this is such a concern with regard to resale, then please tell us how the column lock issue, which existed in the manual C5 throughout it's entire run, and even occured in early automatics, has resulted in " the possible diminished value" of those cars.

Please elaborate on the piston slap issue and how it hurt the resale value of the C5.

I get a real kick out of those who wish to label it a "syndrome" as if it were a plague, an epidemic.

Thus, it is probable that there will be a 'negative' associated with the MN6 '05.
You have absolutely no way of knowing the "probability" of what will or will not be a "negative" associated with the MN6 '05. What you are doing amounts to nothing more than engaging in scare tactics, for whatever purpose, only you can know.

If what you are saying had any credence, people would be shying away from manual C5s because of the rash of column lock instances over the entire run of that car.
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If this is a good day for you - sure would hate to see a bad day

Anyway, your post again makes little sense. The C5 CLB was a issue that was FIXABLE, thus have no impact.

As to the diminished value, time will tell. Maybe you'll not be so contentious when you go to sell yours - please keep us posted.
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What, are you having a bad day?

My post was the possible diminished value of the '05 MN6's. Specifically - since GM has not addressed the DBS issue (regardless of how many there are). Further, it appears that GM is not going to address this issue.

Thus, it is probable that there will be a 'negative' associated with the MN6 '05.

This is no difference that the '01 C5's (oil consumption issue). However, GM 'fixed these that were brought to their attention!

As to modding - yep, I do it, to the extreme. I'll also be doing it on the C6's. I do not care about resale issues associated with my modded cars. Don't need to be
the very few cars (I have met many a C6 owner and none have had it) that have DBS are not what hurt the resale value. It is the chicken littles like youself that think the sky is falling every time a car has the slightest problem for a few people. Thank god I dont listen to you or I wouldnt have had this car to drive around in all summer. I can only hope used vette buyers dont listen to you bc it is you and not the cars themselves that are hurting the resale value. Oh well I use the stock market to invest, I buy a car to drive so if the resale sucks, thats fine with me, I bought the car for fun and I sure am having it!
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