F55 Performance issue
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In my opinion, the best thing to do for someone interested in manual trans is to go with the base trans and change the rear gears to a 3.90 or a 4.10. This way you get the closer ratios of the base transmission as well as the deeper overdrive.
Base trans with 3.90 rear
Gear Final; Ratio
1 10.37 2.66
2 6.94 1.78
3 5.07 1.30
4 3.90 1.00
5 2.89 0.74
6 1.95 0.50
Base with 4.10 rear
Gear Final; Ratio;
1 10.91 2.66
2 7.30 1.78
3 5.33 1.30
4 4.10 1.00
5 3.03 0.74
6 2.05 0.50
Z51 with 3.42 rear
Gear Final; Ratio;
1 10.16 2.97
2 7.08 2.07
3 4.89 1.43
4 3.42 1.00
5 2.43 0.71
6 1.95 0.57
Base trans with 3.90 rear
Gear Final; Ratio
1 10.37 2.66
2 6.94 1.78
3 5.07 1.30
4 3.90 1.00
5 2.89 0.74
6 1.95 0.50
Base with 4.10 rear
Gear Final; Ratio;
1 10.91 2.66
2 7.30 1.78
3 5.33 1.30
4 4.10 1.00
5 3.03 0.74
6 2.05 0.50
Z51 with 3.42 rear
Gear Final; Ratio;
1 10.16 2.97
2 7.08 2.07
3 4.89 1.43
4 3.42 1.00
5 2.43 0.71
6 1.95 0.57
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
The only reason I don't put Z51 on my ignore list, is he's so frikken entertaining! Like watching the court jester dance!
But comparing himself to Ghandi and King is just silly. These were great leaders who won over vast populations of people to their side of thinking. Z51 is the opposite, as he effectively turns away large groups of forum members to the other side by his blind and incessant self-sided rants!
But comparing himself to Ghandi and King is just silly. These were great leaders who won over vast populations of people to their side of thinking. Z51 is the opposite, as he effectively turns away large groups of forum members to the other side by his blind and incessant self-sided rants!
I have been outspoken about a few things here. Among them your propensitiy to stir panic, fear uncertainty and doubt with your gibberish about 25-33% of ALL '05 manual Corvettes being at risk for somthing you coined "dead battery syndrome". Be advised, each and every time you post that nonsense, I shall make it my mission to be there to dispute it.
Now, its your move. Go ahead and quit talking about it, put me on your ignore list.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Feb 26, 2006 at 03:08 PM.
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
And the only reason why I don't put you on my ignore list Hoonose is because someone has to counter all of the dead battery tripe you post up here. I couldn't care less about being on your ignore list. You have mentioned this on more than one occasion. What are you waiting for? Another dead battery.
And as for "comparing myself" with Ghandi and King, did I? But then any human being here can. They were both human beings as are we, they were both men who put their pants on one leg at a time, just as you and I, they were both outspoken as are we, they both said things that not all wanted to hear, as do many here, the list is endless. They were both adamant in their beliefs and tenacious in standing for that which they believed.
I have been outspoken about a few things here. Among them your propensitiy to stir panic, fear uncertainty and doubt with your gibberish about 25-33% of ALL '05 manual Corvettes being at risk for somthing you coined "dead battery syndrome". Be advised, each and every time you post that nonsense, I shall make it my mission to be there to dispute it.
Now, its your move. Go ahead and quit talking about it, put me on your ignore list.
And as for "comparing myself" with Ghandi and King, did I? But then any human being here can. They were both human beings as are we, they were both men who put their pants on one leg at a time, just as you and I, they were both outspoken as are we, they both said things that not all wanted to hear, as do many here, the list is endless. They were both adamant in their beliefs and tenacious in standing for that which they believed.
I have been outspoken about a few things here. Among them your propensitiy to stir panic, fear uncertainty and doubt with your gibberish about 25-33% of ALL '05 manual Corvettes being at risk for somthing you coined "dead battery syndrome". Be advised, each and every time you post that nonsense, I shall make it my mission to be there to dispute it.
Now, its your move. Go ahead and quit talking about it, put me on your ignore list.
King and Ghandi were not nay sayers and rabble rousers. They were great leaders and compromisers who got vast groups of differing peoples together for the general good. They were outstanding idealists who had great and far reaching realistic and futuristic outlooks. Please read about their lives and contributions and learn something useful.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ll&forum_id=74
Hoose poll is this anyway?
What? 50/200 liars, cheats and twits here?
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DSOM your right about King and Ghandi stating they were men. I still think you comparing yourself to them is WRONG!!! The things they took a stand for were FAR GREATER than any option package Chevy offers. The names you brought into this discussion are completely out of place. Yes they were men, that spoke about opinions. They were also men who changed lives for the better, not bragging or bashing suspension packages on Corvettes. I'm not trying to flame you or anyone here. I do think this needs to be kept in perspective. Were talking about cars, and our opinions. Our opinions of these cars are not changing lives in our city, state or country. You have a Z51, apparently you like it. ENJOY!! I have a Z51, on order it will be no better or worse than a base or F55. Buy what you like, drive it how you like and do what you like. There will always be something better and faster. My only concern is what I BOUGHT, not professing my greatness, flaming anyone or comparing myself to men who had views that helped humanity
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
No way bro, as I said this is way too much entertainment!
25-33% of all '05 shifters at risk for "DBS", yeah, right.
Originally Posted by Hoonose
King and Ghandi were not nay sayers and rabble rousers.
Originally Posted by Hoonose
They were great leaders and compromisers who got vast groups of differing peoples together for the general good. They were outstanding idealists who had great and far reaching realistic and futuristic outlooks. Please read about their lives and contributions and learn something useful.
Originally Posted by Hoonose
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ll&forum_id=74
Hoose poll is this anyway?
What? 50/200 liars, cheats and twits here?
Hoose poll is this anyway?
What? 50/200 liars, cheats and twits here?
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Feb 26, 2006 at 03:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by Beach
DSOM your right about King and Ghandi stating they were men. I still think you comparing yourself to them is WRONG!!! .....
I am not trying to make myself out to be a Nobel Peace Prize candidate.
But "The Z51 MN6 offers the best factory performance available in the C6 Vette without going to the Z06" ...is a true statement. And I was jumped for saying it.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Feb 26, 2006 at 04:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Beach I am only "comparing" myself, if you want to call it that, to them to the "extent" that they both took views which were unpopular and were attacked for it. They told what they saw as the truth and were attacked for it. As was I. Even though that which I told the truth about was considerably less globally significant than that which they spoke about, nontheless, what I said was true. Any "comparison" between myself and them ends at that point.
I am not trying to make myself out to be a Nobel Peace Prize candidate.
But "The Z51 MN6 offers the best factory performance available in the C6 Vette without going to the Z06" ...is a true statement. And I was jumped for saying it.
I am not trying to make myself out to be a Nobel Peace Prize candidate.
But "The Z51 MN6 offers the best factory performance available in the C6 Vette without going to the Z06" ...is a true statement. And I was jumped for saying it.
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Originally Posted by Ucraz-E
I think your being "jumped" for even starting your z51 crap in this thread. I don't think the original poster was asking for z51 advice. Seems to me and others, that you take any non z51 suspension thread and turn it into your little "wave the z51 flag thread". Maybe if you stuck your z51 views, in a z51 post, you wouldn't get that "I'm being jumped" feeling.
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
During their time, to some, not myself of course, they were just that. Their views were not popular among many in the establishment. Having lived in the deep south during the Civil Rights struggle, I can personally attest to the fact that King was seen as a "nay sayer and rabble rouser" by many among the establishment in the deep south.
Do you believe that it is an accurate representation of all '05 C6s out there?
Do you believe that it is an accurate representation of all '05 C6s out there?
Just who is your populous here? Where is your support? If you think that you're some sort of 'Z51 leader, guru, maven', I don't think you've got much of a following here. You certainly don't represent me. And just who is the opposition? The rest of the forum members, or just the forum members who don't agree with you (most)? Or just don't happen to have Z51?
No, you're more of a rabble rouser then any free thinker or leader with any useful direction. You're not here to contribute and help people solve their problems. You're too disruptive!
Kind of like recently in Iraq, where the radical leaders were looking for new ways to slow the progress of Democracy. And this guy comes in with some Danish cartoons.....
And as far as numbers of affected '05 MN6's, of course I don't know the actual numbers. But is it like the rare crankbolt issue, or more in frequency like the C5 column lock issue? I'd think it's more like the latter.
Another Z51 poll:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...98&forum_id=74
Hmmmmm.
'05 MN6's seem to have a prevalent and recurring problem.
But not A4, A6 or '06 MN6!
And don't tell me that all the liars, cheats and twits bought just '05 MN6's!
The '05 MN6's are great cars, but imperfect.
The Z51's are great cars, but not for everyone.
But you and I should be able to accept all that. They are just cars.
It's not like someone coming up to your face and telling you that your baby's real ugly!
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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
Ok DSOM Z51, leave it to you to come into a F55 Thread (non Z51 to you) and on your first post you state " we MN6 Z51 owners were kidding or just being "elitist" when we said that if you were looking for the best performing C6 without going to the Z06, that the MN6 Z51 was the way to go? And then pull your soapbox out , run into the phone booth, and rip away your clothes to expose the big 'Z' tatooed on your chest, and then go off all night long about the option you or "we" purchased, and then post"we're not saying you should have purchased a MN6, but the Z51 ",who are the others in your batcave you keep quoting?
Then you complain about uttering Z51 and getting jumped on. Well it seems you have seperated yourself from the crowd. Put yourself and other Z owners (unknown to them) and tagged them "elitist".
Now your comparing yourself to Ghandi, Thoreau and King.
What you need to do is go back to your Z51 polls, 'POP" them back to the top after 3 weeks (how many views now? I think everyone has seen it by now) to get one post, and then delete your "ttt" so others can't see who keeps reviving this two month old thread. Go back there and do what you do best, look up forum member profiles, who took the time to vote for your lame polls, look up their profiles and past posts, analyze all their past posts, look at their pics, and then call them liars and accuse them of trying to abscure your polls with false votes. Man you need a life! Your so F'in **** about your Z option, its amazing! keep it to yourself, put the soapbox back, and keep other Z owners out of your mouth!! Stop hijacking threads for your entertainment purposes!
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we're all tired of your rant dude, as you can see.. go back to the phonebooth and put your clothes back on now...
Then you complain about uttering Z51 and getting jumped on. Well it seems you have seperated yourself from the crowd. Put yourself and other Z owners (unknown to them) and tagged them "elitist".
Now your comparing yourself to Ghandi, Thoreau and King.
What you need to do is go back to your Z51 polls, 'POP" them back to the top after 3 weeks (how many views now? I think everyone has seen it by now) to get one post, and then delete your "ttt" so others can't see who keeps reviving this two month old thread. Go back there and do what you do best, look up forum member profiles, who took the time to vote for your lame polls, look up their profiles and past posts, analyze all their past posts, look at their pics, and then call them liars and accuse them of trying to abscure your polls with false votes. Man you need a life! Your so F'in **** about your Z option, its amazing! keep it to yourself, put the soapbox back, and keep other Z owners out of your mouth!! Stop hijacking threads for your entertainment purposes!
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we're all tired of your rant dude, as you can see.. go back to the phonebooth and put your clothes back on now...
Not to mention about jacking a thread, with no apology to the starter of it!
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From: Silver Spring Maryland
What I love is that DSOM Z51 apparently gets defensive as hell that someone would suggest his 2005 C6 is a waste of money, or not up to snuff because of well-known quality issues including DBS, but it's fine for him to act like all the Base and F-55 suspension guys are retards who bought the Yugo package for our Corvettes. Classic irony. 
