Paint Question
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Melting Slicks
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From: Houston Tx
St. Jude Donor '06
Paint Question
Some of you may remember my post from last week about my car getting peppered by a glass truck loosing glass on the freeway
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...97&forum_id=74
My car is in the body shop now and it looks like I may get it back by Friday. They basically are painting everything from the windshield forward, the drivers door, the rear hatch, and replacing the windshield, headlights, and foglights. The car is at the dealership where I bought it, Parkway Chevrolet in Tomball Texas, and the body shop manager is a Z06 owner and a Corvette Club Member and has promised to personally stay on top of my car and treat it like his own. I feel very good about that.
I was talking to him about the painting process and that is where I have a question. I was telling him that when I bought the car I did not let the dealership wax it because I did not want swirls in the paint. He was saying something about it being new paint and they would not wax it but use a "glaze" of some sort. He said they would send a bottle home with me with some microfiber towels. Can someone explain what this is about. This is not just something that is hiding swirls is it?
Thanks, Joy
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...97&forum_id=74
My car is in the body shop now and it looks like I may get it back by Friday. They basically are painting everything from the windshield forward, the drivers door, the rear hatch, and replacing the windshield, headlights, and foglights. The car is at the dealership where I bought it, Parkway Chevrolet in Tomball Texas, and the body shop manager is a Z06 owner and a Corvette Club Member and has promised to personally stay on top of my car and treat it like his own. I feel very good about that.
I was talking to him about the painting process and that is where I have a question. I was telling him that when I bought the car I did not let the dealership wax it because I did not want swirls in the paint. He was saying something about it being new paint and they would not wax it but use a "glaze" of some sort. He said they would send a bottle home with me with some microfiber towels. Can someone explain what this is about. This is not just something that is hiding swirls is it?
Thanks, Joy
Race Director
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From: Milpitas ca
Originally Posted by DoTheyMakeOtherCars?
Some of you may remember my post from last week about my car getting peppered by a glass truck loosing glass on the freeway
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...97&forum_id=74
My car is in the body shop now and it looks like I may get it back by Friday. They basically are painting everything from the windshield forward, the drivers door, the rear hatch, and replacing the windshield, headlights, and foglights. The car is at the dealership where I bought it, Parkway Chevrolet in Tomball Texas, and the body shop manager is a Z06 owner and a Corvette Club Member and has promised to personally stay on top of my car and treat it like his own. I feel very good about that.
I was talking to him about the painting process and that is where I have a question. I was telling him that when I bought the car I did not let the dealership wax it because I did not want swirls in the paint. He was saying something about it being new paint and they would not wax it but use a "glaze" of some sort. He said they would send a bottle home with me with some microfiber towels. Can someone explain what this is about. This is not just something that is hiding swirls is it?
Thanks, Joy
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...97&forum_id=74
My car is in the body shop now and it looks like I may get it back by Friday. They basically are painting everything from the windshield forward, the drivers door, the rear hatch, and replacing the windshield, headlights, and foglights. The car is at the dealership where I bought it, Parkway Chevrolet in Tomball Texas, and the body shop manager is a Z06 owner and a Corvette Club Member and has promised to personally stay on top of my car and treat it like his own. I feel very good about that.
I was talking to him about the painting process and that is where I have a question. I was telling him that when I bought the car I did not let the dealership wax it because I did not want swirls in the paint. He was saying something about it being new paint and they would not wax it but use a "glaze" of some sort. He said they would send a bottle home with me with some microfiber towels. Can someone explain what this is about. This is not just something that is hiding swirls is it?
Thanks, Joy
Burning Brakes
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From: Malibu California
They're going to shoot your color, then the clear coat, right? Do not let them put anything on after that until paint has a chance to cure. I wouldn't put anything else on excapt wax etc., after the cure process.
Safety Car
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From: Spicewood, Texas, USA TX-Texas
A glaze is a finishing polish with a very fine abrasive. Application of glaze is the last step before waxing.
Catalyzed urethane paints "dry to tape" in hours, and continue to harden for several days afterward...they are probably fully cured in a week. Catalyzed paints cure by chemical reaction, and not by solvent vaporization like the old lacquers. Waxing the old finishes would prevent solvent "out-gassing" resulting in blistering or lifting, so you didn't want to wax them for a while. Compared to lacquer, solvent content in modern paint is low to reduce air pollution...that's one of the reasons why modern cars have orange peel.
I don't know how these ideas got started about not waxing for a month or two, but it has to be holdover info from the past in my opinion. On the other hand, I have no problem waiting a month. Commercial body shops are highly likely to color sand and buff repairs before you ever see the car...it is virtually impossible to paint BC/CC in the average body shop without getting crud in the finish.
Catalyzed urethane paints "dry to tape" in hours, and continue to harden for several days afterward...they are probably fully cured in a week. Catalyzed paints cure by chemical reaction, and not by solvent vaporization like the old lacquers. Waxing the old finishes would prevent solvent "out-gassing" resulting in blistering or lifting, so you didn't want to wax them for a while. Compared to lacquer, solvent content in modern paint is low to reduce air pollution...that's one of the reasons why modern cars have orange peel.
I don't know how these ideas got started about not waxing for a month or two, but it has to be holdover info from the past in my opinion. On the other hand, I have no problem waiting a month. Commercial body shops are highly likely to color sand and buff repairs before you ever see the car...it is virtually impossible to paint BC/CC in the average body shop without getting crud in the finish.
Last edited by JmpnJckFlsh; Mar 9, 2006 at 10:50 AM.
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From: 39.0N 105.1W
Originally Posted by JmpnJckFlsh
A glaze is a finishing polish with a very fine abrasive. Application of glaze is the last step before waxing.
Catalyzed urethane paints "dry to tape" in hours, and continue to harden for several days afterward...they are probably fully cured in a week. Catalyzed paints cure by chemical reaction, and not by solvent vaporization like the old lacquers. Waxing the old finishes would prevent solvent "out-gassing" resulting in blistering or lifting, so you didn't want to wax them for a while. Compared to lacquer, solvent content in modern paint is low to reduce air pollution...that's one of the reasons why modern cars have orange peel.
I don't know how these ideas got started about not waxing for a month or two, but it has to be holdover info from the past in my opinion. On the other hand, I have no problem waiting a month. Commercial body shops are highly likely to color sand and buff repairs before you ever see the car...it is virtually impossible to paint BC/CC in the average body shop without getting crud in the finish.
Catalyzed urethane paints "dry to tape" in hours, and continue to harden for several days afterward...they are probably fully cured in a week. Catalyzed paints cure by chemical reaction, and not by solvent vaporization like the old lacquers. Waxing the old finishes would prevent solvent "out-gassing" resulting in blistering or lifting, so you didn't want to wax them for a while. Compared to lacquer, solvent content in modern paint is low to reduce air pollution...that's one of the reasons why modern cars have orange peel.
I don't know how these ideas got started about not waxing for a month or two, but it has to be holdover info from the past in my opinion. On the other hand, I have no problem waiting a month. Commercial body shops are highly likely to color sand and buff repairs before you ever see the car...it is virtually impossible to paint BC/CC in the average body shop without getting crud in the finish.
