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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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I have been watching for any or more info on this subject. I currently use a Garmin C330 which you can enter and/or change things while on the move (my lovely wife & navigator actually does it) and I`ve seen some work-arounds for other GM vehicles including Caddy`s and Denali's. Anyone come up with anything for the Vette yet?

Also I know there were several members looking to hack the NAV system...any luck with that?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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I`ve seen some work-arounds for other GM vehicles including Caddy`s and Denali's.
I have the NAV on my Denali and would love to know how to bypass the "no programming while moving" restriction. I have always assumed that it was a 21st century reality (damn lawyers).
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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I have almost the identical nav on my 06 Lexus GS430 and found the hack code to override the system so I can program it while driving. I've been playing with the Vette one on and off trying to find a way. If I find it you'll know.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
I have been watching for any or more info on this subject. I currently use a Garmin C330 which you can enter and/or change things while on the move (my lovely wife & navigator actually does it) and I`ve seen some work-arounds for other GM vehicles including Caddy`s and Denali's. Anyone come up with anything for the Vette yet?

Also I know there were several members looking to hack the NAV system...any luck with that?
i am still ooking too
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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The lawyers should be commended once again for doing a great job....now its time to take them out back and shoot them.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
I have been watching for any or more info on this subject. I currently use a Garmin C330 which you can enter and/or change things while on the move (my lovely wife & navigator actually does it) and I`ve seen some work-arounds for other GM vehicles including Caddy`s and Denali's. Anyone come up with anything for the Vette yet?

Also I know there were several members looking to hack the NAV system...any luck with that?
Care to share your Cadillac secrets? Have an Escalade and would love to know how to beat the lawyers at their game.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this issue. I have a couple of NAV units in two different cars. On one of these units, I can program it while moving. I'll be the first to say that this practice certainly isn't the safest thing to do while moving down the road but I have done it on occassion. Once I got the C6 and could not make changes while moving, I started to come around and feel that I'm better off not being able to program while moving. I found that although I can program on the move with one of my units, it takes me twice as long to get the programming done while I'm driving. I've found myself just pulling over and taking a minute or two to input my destination. I definitely can do the programming faster while sitting on the side of the road than I can when I'm doing it on the fly at 60 or 70 MPH.

If I could wave my hand and make a change, I think I might put something in place so that the NAV system in the C6 could be programmed while moving if it sensed there is a passenger in the right seat. With this function in place, it would allow the NAV to be programmed by a passenger while the car is in motion. That would work for those times when you're riding with a co-pilot.

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Originally Posted by quickride
I have mixed feelings about this issue. I have a couple of NAV units in two different cars. On one of these units, I can program it while moving. I'll be the first to say that this practice certainly isn't the safest thing to do while moving down the road but I have done it on occassion. Once I got the C6 and could not make changes while moving, I started to come around and feel that I'm better off not being able to program while moving. I found that although I can program on the move with one of my units, it takes me twice as long to get the programming done while I'm driving. I've found myself just pulling over in and taking a minute or two to input my destination. I definitely can do the programming faster while sitting on the side of the road than I can when I'm doing it on the fly at 60 or 70 MPH.

If I could wave my hand and make a change, I think I might put something in place so that the NAV system in the C6 could be programmed while moving if it sensed there is a passenger in the right seat. With this function in place, it would allow the NAV to be programmed by a passenger while the car is in motion. That would work for those times when you're riding with a co-pilot.



I would think this is a SMOP (Small Matter Of Programming). They already have a sensor to know there is a passenger above a certain weight in the passenger seat, so use that info to at least provide the option to program while moving. Agree with your comments on programming from the drivers side. I have a Garmin on my electraglide and, yes, I have programmed a destination while riding. Wouldn't recommend it however.
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Originally Posted by quickride
I have mixed feelings about this issue. I have a couple of NAV units in two different cars. On one of these units, I can program it while moving. I'll be the first to say that this practice certainly isn't the safest thing to do while moving down the road but I have done it on occassion. Once I got the C6 and could not make changes while moving, I started to come around and feel that I'm better off not being able to program while moving. I found that although I can program on the move with one of my units, it takes me twice as long to get the programming done while I'm driving. I've found myself just pulling over in and taking a minute or two to input my destination. I definitely can do the programming faster while sitting on the side of the road than I can when I'm doing it on the fly at 60 or 70 MPH.

If I could wave my hand and make a change, I think I might put something in place so that the NAV system in the C6 could be programmed while moving if it sensed there is a passenger in the right seat. With this function in place, it would allow the NAV to be programmed by a passenger while the car is in motion. That would work for those times when you're riding with a co-pilot.
My Honda minivan allows you to speak your destination city and street, and even that is plenty iffy while moving. Punching in letters on a touch screen takes a lot of focus off the road.
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I agree with most of you on the safety of using the NAV while in motion but as you mentioned it would be very helpful if the passenger could input the info. The politicos and lawyers can't stop you from eating, drinking, talking on the phone, or reaching in the rear area. In these areas they rely on you to use your common sense to make safe and smart decisions. However, with NAV systems they handcuff you to the point where you can't use the system in a safe and normal manner (passenger programming while in motion).
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BarelyFit
Care to share your Cadillac secrets? Have an Escalade and would love to know how to beat the lawyers at their game.
Apparently there is just 1 wire that can be cut and a switch installed. The wire to cut is the VSS (vehicle speed sensor).
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Originally Posted by PremiumBuck
I agree with most of you on the safety of using the NAV while in motion but as you mentioned it would be very helpful if the passenger could input the info. The politicos and lawyers can't stop you from eating, drinking, talking on the phone, or reaching in the rear area. In these areas they rely on you to use your common sense to make safe and smart decisions. However, with NAV systems they handcuff you to the point where you can't use the system in a safe and normal manner (passenger programming while in motion).
Hey, I'm all for bashing lawyers, but me thinks there might've also been a few bean counters involved in the decision to not implement a passenger detect system.
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
Apparently there is just 1 wire that can be cut and a switch installed. The wire to cut is the VSS (vehicle speed sensor).
Hmmm, very interesting.

In the c6, in the Radio C2 plug, its pin D is "labeled vehicle speed signal." I'll upload a pic of the spec sheet here in a minute.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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I think we should all file a class action lawsuit against lawyers for creating higher costs for everything and lowering the standard of living. I now have to get cold coffee from Macdonalds, have to pull over to enter nav data, and pay a ton in healthcare costs because of them. This fits all the requirements for TORT law....

yeah....
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
Apparently there is just 1 wire that can be cut and a switch installed. The wire to cut is the VSS (vehicle speed sensor).
Further to my post above and Miagui's hint, here's the c6 spec sheet for my '05, and check out pin D:



Now I guess the question is whether I want to go take some snips to it?
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Further to my post above and Miagui's hint, here's the c6 spec sheet for my '05, and check out pin D:


Now I guess the question is whether I want to go take some snips to it?

That's what electrical tape is for, got for it!
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That's what electrical tape is for, got for it!

Tried it! Doesn't work, either it takes the info off the gyro or the GPS antenna...
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Tried it! Doesn't work, either it takes the info off the gyro or the GPS antenna...
Bummer, but thanks for sparing me the effort!
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Just need to figure out what the signal is for 0 mph. Wish I was back in the military so I could put a scope on it.
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