C6R Frame
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C6R Frame
I was just curious, why does the C6r use a steel frame. If it indeed does then why not aluminum.Is LG's race car using the aluminum frame too? I remember asking this once before but I suppose I didn't receive a complete answer. Thanks.
Last edited by Tavarez; May 12, 2006 at 06:22 AM.
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Originally Posted by Tavarez
I was just curious, why does the C6r use a steel frame. If it indeed does then why not aluminum. It seems that Geiger also made their C6 Z06-r or whatever it's called from a base vette with the steel frame. Is LG's race car using the aluminum frame too? I remember asking this once before but I suppose I didn't receive a complete answer. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Tavarez
I was just curious, why does the C6r use a steel frame. If it indeed does then why not aluminum. It seems that Geiger also made their C6 Z06-r or whatever it's called from a base vette with the steel frame. Is LG's race car using the aluminum frame too? I remember asking this once before but I suppose I didn't receive a complete answer. Thanks.
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About the only thing the C6R has in common with the C6, besides the looks, is side marker lamps lenses, and a few trim peices. The other stuff is perception, but then again, isn't that what racing is all about, perception.
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Originally Posted by clem zahrobsky
as of now the steel roll cage must be welded to the frame and there is no way to weld steel to aluminum so race corvette use a steel frame....
Inertia Welding
You can reduce it to a backyard job if you have transition pieces made. Something like 6 inch lengths of aluminum and steel tubes inertia welded together to form a transition piece, then the steel and aluminum ends conventionally welded to their respective matching materials on the car chassis and roll cage.
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Aluminum fatigues (grows weaker over the life of the metal), it is weaker (per given mass), it is difficult to weld steel to, and it is extrememly difficult to repair properly without reducing it's strength considerably.
In our racing environments, where we can save nearly 1000lbs over a street car (no interior, safety stuff, carbon body), saving 100lbs due to a structural sacrifice just doesn't make sense.
In our racing environments, where we can save nearly 1000lbs over a street car (no interior, safety stuff, carbon body), saving 100lbs due to a structural sacrifice just doesn't make sense.
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[QUOTE=davidfarmer]Aluminum fatigues (grows weaker over the life of the metal), it is weaker (per given mass), it is difficult to weld steel to, and it is extrememly difficult to repair properly without reducing it's strength considerably. i wonder what this will do to the insurance rates for a ZO-6 when the frame can not be repaired in case of a accident
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Originally Posted by Corvette Junkie
The rules for the races they are in require steel frames.
Ding, ding, ding.... The ACO and ALMS both require steel. There was a detailed article in Corvette Magazine recently.
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Originally Posted by Tavarez
I'm pretty sure there's a reason why they require steel.
Because there is small weight advantage to a well designed aluminum frame at a greatly increased cost over the life of race car.
Limiting everyone to steel keeps the cost down and helps level the playing field.
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Originally Posted by haulina29
*******news flash*********
Aluminum frame is not all its cracked up to be
Aluminum frame is not all its cracked up to be
You're right, unlike steel, aluminum has no fatigue limit. (Stresses below the fatigue limit will never cause failure.) What that means for aluminum is that it will crack from repeated flexing, no matter how overbuilt it is.
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Originally Posted by shopdog
You're right, unlike steel, aluminum has no fatigue limit. (Stresses below the fatigue limit will never cause failure.) What that means for aluminum is that it will crack from repeated flexing, no matter how overbuilt it is.
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Originally Posted by david.k
so then why not use carbon fiber. less whieght, and i think its stronger then aluminum.