A6 Vs M6
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
All my personal cars have been manuals. My last two were T56 6 speeds. I have to tell you, the first T56 was a great tranny, smoother than butter, but I don't like the 6 speed in my 01 Z28.
I drove both the manual and auto C6's before I ordered mine and if anything the manual was even worse than my current Camaro's. The other problem is if you drive it hard you will go through a lot of expensive clutches. The best way to launch an LS1/LS2 is to slip the clutch coming out of the hole and the stock clutch doesn't like that at all. If you don't slip the clutch you will spin the tires hard and if you don't spin the tires you bog the engine.
One other consideration, the autos are much easier on the rearend, they will last a lot longer.
In the end, I hate to admit it, but I ordered the A6. I wouldn't have done this if it weren't for the paddles, I want to be able to keep it in the gear I want when I autocross. The only problem with getting the A6 was I couldn't get the car in PINK!!!
Thanks,
Glenn
I drove both the manual and auto C6's before I ordered mine and if anything the manual was even worse than my current Camaro's. The other problem is if you drive it hard you will go through a lot of expensive clutches. The best way to launch an LS1/LS2 is to slip the clutch coming out of the hole and the stock clutch doesn't like that at all. If you don't slip the clutch you will spin the tires hard and if you don't spin the tires you bog the engine.
One other consideration, the autos are much easier on the rearend, they will last a lot longer.
In the end, I hate to admit it, but I ordered the A6. I wouldn't have done this if it weren't for the paddles, I want to be able to keep it in the gear I want when I autocross. The only problem with getting the A6 was I couldn't get the car in PINK!!!
Thanks,
Glenn
Safety Car
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From: Forked River N.J.
Originally Posted by Jstyle
I was looking at moving up the the c6 from my 00 coupe.
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
Racer
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: San Ramon CA
Originally Posted by CessnaDriver
sports car
Technologies change. The A6 is just the beginning. And there is more then one mechanical solution to enabling a vehicle to perform well.
Technologies change. The A6 is just the beginning. And there is more then one mechanical solution to enabling a vehicle to perform well.
Safety Car
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From: Forked River N.J.
Originally Posted by glennhl
All my personal cars have been manuals. My last two were T56 6 speeds. I have to tell you, the first T56 was a great tranny, smoother than butter, but I don't like the 6 speed in my 01 Z28.
I drove both the manual and auto C6's before I ordered mine and if anything the manual was even worse than my current Camaro's. The other problem is if you drive it hard you will go through a lot of expensive clutches. The best way to launch an LS1/LS2 is to slip the clutch coming out of the hole and the stock clutch doesn't like that at all. If you don't slip the clutch you will spin the tires hard and if you don't spin the tires you bog the engine.
One other consideration, the autos are much easier on the rearend, they will last a lot longer.
In the end, I hate to admit it, but I ordered the A6. I wouldn't have done this if it weren't for the paddles, I want to be able to keep it in the gear I want when I autocross. The only problem with getting the A6 was I couldn't get the car in PINK!!!
Thanks,
Glenn
I drove both the manual and auto C6's before I ordered mine and if anything the manual was even worse than my current Camaro's. The other problem is if you drive it hard you will go through a lot of expensive clutches. The best way to launch an LS1/LS2 is to slip the clutch coming out of the hole and the stock clutch doesn't like that at all. If you don't slip the clutch you will spin the tires hard and if you don't spin the tires you bog the engine.
One other consideration, the autos are much easier on the rearend, they will last a lot longer.
In the end, I hate to admit it, but I ordered the A6. I wouldn't have done this if it weren't for the paddles, I want to be able to keep it in the gear I want when I autocross. The only problem with getting the A6 was I couldn't get the car in PINK!!!
Thanks,
Glenn
At a stop you have to down shift to first --if you wish that gear otherwise it's starts in second. In sport mode it will not shift up to 6 th gear unless you are going better then 50.
Burning Brakes
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From: Fremont, California
Originally Posted by DCBE
My opinion is if you are drag racing the A6 use S, the manual (paddle shift) mode can't beat it. S takes you to 6,500 and has a very hard shift to the next gear. Looking at the boards there are some 12.7 times out there and all are with the system in S.
Burning Brakes
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From: Fremont, California
Originally Posted by CessnaDriver
sports car
n.
An automobile equipped for racing, especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds.
I do not think that a manual is required to consider a vehicle a "true" sports car.
Technologies change. The A6 is just the beginning. And there is more then one mechanical solution to enabling a vehicle to perform well.
A Corvette. ANY Corvette is a true Sports Car.
n.
An automobile equipped for racing, especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds.
I do not think that a manual is required to consider a vehicle a "true" sports car.
Technologies change. The A6 is just the beginning. And there is more then one mechanical solution to enabling a vehicle to perform well.
A Corvette. ANY Corvette is a true Sports Car.
FWIW, the current issue of Corvette Quarterly has an article comparing the M6 to the A6 on a race track and autocross. The M6 did 1:27 on the track with the A6 close behind at 1:27.8. However, the A6 bested the M6 in autocross with a 35.1 vs 35.5.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dallas TX
Originally Posted by ghostRder
Just a note Glenn, the A6 in sport mode (Paddle shifter) will down shift for you if your speed warrants it, whether or not you want it to.
At a stop you have to down shift to first --if you wish that gear otherwise it's starts in second. In sport mode it will not shift up to 6 th gear unless you are going better then 50.
At a stop you have to down shift to first --if you wish that gear otherwise it's starts in second. In sport mode it will not shift up to 6 th gear unless you are going better then 50.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dallas TX
Originally Posted by Jstyle
I was looking at moving up the the c6 from my 00 coupe.
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by ghostRder
Just a note Glenn, the A6 in sport mode (Paddle shifter) will down shift for you if your speed warrants it, whether or not you want it to.
At a stop you have to down shift to first --if you wish that gear otherwise it's starts in second. In sport mode it will not shift up to 6 th gear unless you are going better then 50.
At a stop you have to down shift to first --if you wish that gear otherwise it's starts in second. In sport mode it will not shift up to 6 th gear unless you are going better then 50.
Thanks,
Glenn
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by Blvdbrawler
I guess the A6 paddle shifter wins this one...One question though...The A6 in "s" mode WILL AUTOMATICALLY SHIFT UPWARD at 6500 RPM without me pressing the button? Did I read that right?
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by SellingBMWforC6
If I wasn't so distracted by your avatar, I would comment on your lack of a comment.
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From: Houston TX
St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Jstyle
I was looking at moving up the the c6 from my 00 coupe.
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
Ever since my your days (i.e. 4 years ago when I was 20) I promised myself I would never EVER again buy a auto vette. My 88 was auto and it just wasn't as fun. So my question was am I really going to receive any improvement in going from the c6 m6 as opposed to an A6? Is the paddle shifter indy style with great response or is it closer to the crap triptronic stuff? I guess I have to drive one to really know.
I hope that made sense???
The new A6 is a fine transmission, and just as quick or quicker at the track (particularly for the less experienced and/or skilled at shifting) according to several reports which I have no reason to doubt. However, the bottom line for me is that the MN6 is simply MORE FUN to drive. I am not alone--others here have tested both extensively and report the same on the "fun to drive" meter. The A6 is a great option for those who don't like or want or can't shift a manual, but it is just not as much fun to drive as a MN6 for those of us who like to shift our sports cars.
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From: ---Phoenix, AZ --- Boiler Up, Hammer Down!
Originally Posted by DCBE
My opinion is if you are drag racing the A6 use S, the manual (paddle shift) mode can't beat it. S takes you to 6,500 and has a very hard shift to the next gear. Looking at the boards there are some 12.7 times out there and all are with the system in S.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1340004