"headers in calif."
Drifting
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From: Fresno CA
Originally Posted by midnite902
Callaway and B&B have C.A.R.B. certified headers. B&B use a "snake pit" design with 22" primary tubes and a short collector feeding the stock CATs.
Some of these shorty headers have actually shown a loss on the dyno on LS1 cars, not sure about LS2 but Iam guessing it would be the same.Just not worth the time or money in my opinion even if you get the 8 hp some of the makers claim.
Drifting
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From: Salinas Ca.
Originally Posted by ricatthebeach
I believe you are reading the law correctly. However, there are plenty of smog places that only care if the car passes the "sniff" test, and look the other way when it comes to headers.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dana Point CA
I assume the only way one would know if long tube lheaders were installed would be to look under the car, and I have NEVER had a smog tech look under any car I have had smogged, especially a Vette which would require lifting the car to see underneath.
Is it true that long tube headers appear similar to stock when viewed from the ltop of the engine?
Is it true that long tube headers appear similar to stock when viewed from the ltop of the engine?
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Originally Posted by emejay
Is it true that long tube headers appear similar to stock when viewed from the ltop of the engine?
Burning Brakes
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From: Dana Point CA
Originally Posted by shopdog
No. Individual tube steel headers bear very little resemblence to the stock cast iron manifolds. They're very obvious to even the casual observer looking under the hood.
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Originally Posted by emejay
How about for a Z06? The C6Z06 I saw looked like headers as I saw no cast iron manifold. Does the Z06 come from the factory with a cast iron manifold? Thanks for the feedback.
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From: Kailua-Kona Hawaii
I live in Alaska and we have smog testing too. The testers here go pretty much along the lines of California laws. I know that th testers here would pop my hood, see the headers, ask for my CARB paperwork, I would grumble and scuff my feet, and then they would fail me on a visual inspection. The inspection station would never even hook me up to the machine. Just this year, Alaska went to the first four years of vehicle ownership are free from testing. Up until last year, it was the first two years.
I have a set of B&B headers on and I am not worried about our testing. Here is the kicker. In AK we have a seasonal waiver in that the registration is cheaper but you cannot drive the vehicle between 31 October and 1 April. The good thing is that no emssions test is required. I doubt many southern states have anything like a seasonal waiver because you guys don't have snow from October to April either.
I'd imagine that if you live in California, and you want headers than plan on putting the stock manifolds back on every time inspection rolls around.
I have a set of B&B headers on and I am not worried about our testing. Here is the kicker. In AK we have a seasonal waiver in that the registration is cheaper but you cannot drive the vehicle between 31 October and 1 April. The good thing is that no emssions test is required. I doubt many southern states have anything like a seasonal waiver because you guys don't have snow from October to April either.
I'd imagine that if you live in California, and you want headers than plan on putting the stock manifolds back on every time inspection rolls around.
Drifting
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From: Fresno CA
Originally Posted by JohnDS
Sorry, I do, and I know it is 4 years grace from my last 2 cars.
John
John
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Here in Georgia, for an OBDII car (anything made after 1996), they just plug you in and read the ECM for fault codes. No fault codes, you pass. Simple, quick, $25. Older cars still have to go on the dyno and sniffer because their self-diagnostics aren't complete enough. The visual inspection consists of flipping open the fuel door and seeing if you have the OEM filler cap.
Safety Car
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From: Corpus Christi Texas
My C6 is registered in CA and has long-tubes. Like Cucchiara said, it is 6 years. I'm moving to Florida this summer so I will register there anyway. No worries..........knock on wood.