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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Just got my C6-2006 and it has exceed all my expectations (traded a 2001 C5).
Love the paddles!!!

How difficult would it to reverse the wires on the right paddle, so a finger pull is up-shift?
This would make it similar to other paddle shifters, using finger pulls only (and no thumbs).
Right-hand fingers pull to up-shift, left-hand fingers pull to down shift.

Using the thumb to up-shift is OK, but doesnt feel as good as using a quick pull of the fingers.

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTS06
Just got my C6-2006 and it has exceed all my expectations (traded a 2001 C5).

Love the paddles!!!

How difficult would it to reverse the wires on the right paddle, so a finger pull is up-shift?

This would make it similar to other paddle shifters, using finger pulls only (and no thumbs).

Right-hand fingers pull to up-shift, left-hand fingers pull to down shift.

Using the thumb to up-shift is OK, but doesnt feel as good as using a quick pull of the fingers.
That's how my Cambiocorsa (F1) tranny works on my Quattroporte and it's fantastic! If someone can figure out how to do it w/o compromising reliability (and warranty), I want to hear about it!

Difference between the A6 and the F1, however, is the F1 won't automatically default to 2nd at a full stop and won't upshift for you NO MATTER WHAT. The A6 will upshift if you don't do it when the computer wants you to (I think: maybe I'm wrong about that because it hasn't happened to me yet but I thought I read that in the owner's manual).
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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I would be interested....
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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The A6 in paddle mode will not upshift by itself once you used the paddles.. You need to press the paddle to upshift..
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mel 2001
The A6 in paddle mode will not upshift by itself once you used the paddles.. You need to press the paddle to upshift..


I have hit the rev limiter more than once.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mel 2001
The A6 in paddle mode will not upshift by itself once you used the paddles.. You need to press the paddle to upshift..
What about downshift? If you're say in 4th @ 30 MPH and floor it, will it automatically drop to 2nd or will it stay in 4th no matter what? It downshifts as you decelerate but does it also do it if you're accelerating and in the wrong gear for the engine speed and amount of pressure on the accelerator? I guess I can just take a spin and find out but was wondering if you already knew and can save me the trouble.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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While I have developed good technique using the paddles, I would also prefer to pull versus push.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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[QUOTE=PAVette]While I have developed good technique using the paddles, I would also prefer to pull versus push.[/QU

Well, in the new motor trend issue, (04/06 DIAL 911 ZO6 vs. P911/cayman/aston martin) they just had a seperate article on the vette A6 praisng it in every way possible BUT that it should pull and NOT push in the paddles in their opinion. That was the only complaint, the rest was awesome. They said the "folks" at GM did many hours of testing, and THEIR conclusion was what it is, I quess you were not part of the many hours?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Wow, good to see its not just me... Pull over push gets my vote!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by C6Jeff
What about downshift? If you're say in 4th @ 30 MPH and floor it, will it automatically drop to 2nd or will it stay in 4th no matter what? It downshifts as you decelerate but does it also do it if you're accelerating and in the wrong gear for the engine speed and amount of pressure on the accelerator? I guess I can just take a spin and find out but was wondering if you already knew and can save me the trouble.
Shift points are @ this for down shift. 4-3 18mph, 3-2 8mph.
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Originally Posted by C6Jeff
What about downshift? If you're say in 4th @ 30 MPH and floor it, will it automatically drop to 2nd or will it stay in 4th no matter what? It downshifts as you decelerate but does it also do it if you're accelerating and in the wrong gear for the engine speed and amount of pressure on the accelerator?
No, if you're in 'paddle mode' it stays in the gear that you're in until you choose otherwise (with the paddles), the only automatic downshifting occurs if you slow down beyond the rpm capabilities of the particular gear you're in.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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So it appears that there are others who would prefer a pull-pull option.

The question remains, how difficult would it to reverse the wires on the right paddle, so a finger pull is up-shift?

If not at the paddle, maybe there is a wire connector down line to the transmission control where the pins could be swapped?

Any electro techies out there?
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Should this be posted in the Tech Forum?
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTS06
So it appears that there are others who would prefer a pull-pull option.

The question remains, how difficult would it to reverse the wires on the right paddle, so a finger pull is up-shift?

If not at the paddle, maybe there is a wire connector down line to the transmission control where the pins could be swapped?

Any electro techies out there?
Even if you managed to convert it to pull in stead of push, you'd still have only solved less than half the problem: True F1 paddle shifters are mounted on the steering column and are therefore always where you expect them to be, whereas on the Vette they are on the steering wheel and are therefore always spinning with the wheel and not always where you can easily find them. THAT's what annoys me most about the system. I can get used to pushing for up and pulling for down (even though my other car has a true F1 tranny and I have to pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift, so it takes a second to mentally adjust when I change cars), but never knowing where the damned buttons and levers are is what really bothers me!:m ad:
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Even if you managed to convert it to pull in stead of push, you'd still have only solved less than half the problem: True F1 paddle shifters are mounted on the steering column and are therefore always where you expect them to be, whereas on the Vette they are on the steering wheel and are therefore always spinning with the wheel and not always where you can easily find them. THAT's what annoys me most about the system. I can get used to pushing for up and pulling for down (even though my other car has a true F1 tranny and I have to pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift, so it takes a second to mentally adjust when I change cars), but never knowing where the damned buttons and levers are is what really bothers me!:m ad:

As much as I loved the M3 I still couldn't get used to the paddle shifters (mounted on the steering wheel). The F1 shifters on the Maserati are nice.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by C6Jeff
Even if you managed to convert it to pull in stead of push, you'd still have only solved less than half the problem: True F1 paddle shifters are mounted on the steering column and are therefore always where you expect them to be, whereas on the Vette they are on the steering wheel and are therefore always spinning with the wheel and not always where you can easily find them. THAT's what annoys me most about the system. I can get used to pushing for up and pulling for down (even though my other car has a true F1 tranny and I have to pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift, so it takes a second to mentally adjust when I change cars), but never knowing where the damned buttons and levers are is what really bothers me!:m ad:

Excellent point! I think that's one reason I don't mind each side being identical on the Vette, that way you don't have to remember what side is what when you are turning, you just go for the push button to upshift no matter which side it is on. Converting to the pull/pull with it mounted to the steering wheel would be crazy.
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Originally Posted by C6Jeff
Even if you managed to convert it to pull in stead of push, you'd still have only solved less than half the problem: True F1 paddle shifters are mounted on the steering column and are therefore always where you expect them to be, whereas on the Vette they are on the steering wheel and are therefore always spinning with the wheel and not always where you can easily find them. THAT's what annoys me most about the system. I can get used to pushing for up and pulling for down (even though my other car has a true F1 tranny and I have to pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift, so it takes a second to mentally adjust when I change cars), but never knowing where the damned buttons and levers are is what really bothers me.
I have seen a poll with other brands of paddles and the result was split about 50-50 column vs steering mounted paddles. I don't have much experience except my daughter's Mini Cooper S auto. I like the steering mount, as generally when you're shifting, the steering wheel isn't turned too far. I also like to pull to upshift, as acceleration pushes you back into your seat. Push to downshift as decelleration pushes you forward.
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Originally Posted by C6Jeff
Even if you managed to convert it to pull in stead of push, you'd still have only solved less than half the problem: True F1 paddle shifters are mounted on the steering column and are therefore always where you expect them to be, whereas on the Vette they are on the steering wheel and are therefore always spinning with the wheel and not always where you can easily find them. THAT's what annoys me most about the system. I can get used to pushing for up and pulling for down (even though my other car has a true F1 tranny and I have to pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift, so it takes a second to mentally adjust when I change cars), but never knowing where the damned buttons and levers are is what really bothers me!:m ad:
good point....never thought of that
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Excellent point! I think that's one reason I don't mind each side being identical on the Vette, that way you don't have to remember what side is what when you are turning, you just go for the push button to upshift no matter which side it is on. Converting to the pull/pull with it mounted to the steering wheel would be crazy.
That makes sense. Since I have both to compare to, I can tell you that the F1 on the Maserati is definitely a better setup from an ergonomic standpoint but the auto mode is horrendous! I simply never use the auto mode and absentmindedly upshift with the right paddle and usually let the computer do the downshift unless I'm feeling frisky.
I probably should have tried the 6M C6 before trusting the automobile mags that this A6 was the best thing since sliced bread, but all in all I guess I'm happy I don't have to mess with a clutch in stop and go traffic. I just wish I could hear some exhaust sound w/o having to floor it! But that's not the tranny's fault.
Pushbuttons or pull paddles, I am still crazy about my DSOM!
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