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Old May 14, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
That bugs me too. Kinda like:

"cut the mustard"

"for all intense and purposes" and

"irregardless" (is that the oposite of regardless?)

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The phrase is:

"For all intents and purposes."

... For all intent(ion)s and purposes that you might have, the answer is no ...
... For all intents and purposes, they are identical ...
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Also: opposite

While I'm at it:
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Cut the Mustard

The OED2 has it deriving from the slang sense of mustard meaning the best (flavorful, what makes something else taste good). O.Henry uses the word in the 1904 Cabbages and Kings in this fashion. The phrase cut the mustard comes from about the same period, first appearing in print a year earlier. The cut refers to harvesting the plant. If you can't cut the mustard, you can't supply what is best.

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irregardless

ADVERB: Nonstandard Regardless.
ETYMOLOGY: Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.
USAGE NOTE: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir– prefix and –less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Runge_Kutta
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The phrase is:

"For all intents and purposes."
No **** Sherlock. That's why I posted
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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What happened to "Direct injection" GM spoke highly of it a couple of years ago. That was claimed to bump Horse power up an extra 40 horses. Whatever they do I LOVE MY 06 VERT!
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Old May 15, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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My friends who live in South Boston VA, near VIR, say they have seen the 600 HP monster at closed GM track days.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveJ
We're planning on 2008. The 2000 C5 Z51 coupe will hold us just fine till then. At one point I read that 2008 would be the year for all Vettes to get the aluminum frame, but I haven't seen that mentioned for awhile.
The problem is that 2008 will be at the tail end of the model run, and you will lose your butt in 1 - 2 years max. Remember what the C5s values did halfway through the 2004 model year. I sure do.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zapman123
they better bump 425 plus. King kong of detroit is coming
back . Challenger with 425hp HEMI pistol grip shifter
Hugger orange..hot stuff
The street hemi's were pigs the first time they showed up as they will be this time. Does no one remember this. A good running 327 (in anything) would blow the doors off a 426 hemi.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by C2BOB
The street hemi's were pigs the first time they showed up as they will be this time. Does no one remember this. A good running 327 (in anything) would blow the doors off a 426 hemi.
You are correct sir! In stock form the hemi muscle cars of the sixties and seventies weren't world beaters. I never lost to one in pure stock, driving my 68 Hurst Olds.

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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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I would like DOD on a Corvette. Could you imagine 35+ mpg with 425 hp from the factory? I've driven the new Tahoe, you can't feel when it kicks into or out of 4 cyl mode. Pretty smooth transition. As soon as you floor it, all 8 cyl are ready to rock.
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Originally Posted by C2BOB
The street hemi's were pigs the first time they showed up as they will be this time. Does no one remember this. A good running 327 (in anything) would blow the doors off a 426 hemi.
The engine is already out there and its no pig. Puts out rear wheel numbers in line with claimed power and it has no weak spots in the powerband. The challenger is going to be a good car. The motor is up to the task but too much weight will keep it from being competitive straight line with a vette. If DC ever gets to putting it into a lightweight car it will be real competition.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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This thread is fun. To dream, to ponder, to attempt to see into the future. Interesting activity, but for now...

I GOTTA DRIVE MY VETTE !
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Old May 20, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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No mention of Blue Devil in this whole thread. Wow! Now that is something to stick in your pipe!
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Old May 20, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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No mention of Blue Devil in this whole thread. Wow! Now that is something to stick in your pipe!
That's because the Blue Devil name is dead. The marketing people didn't like it. It didn't test well. The new name is Corvette Super Sport, or SS for short.

The SS moniker is well recognized as a Chevy performance brand, stretching all the way back to the beginnings of the first high performance era. Zora had it first for a Corvette prototype before Camaros and Chevelles got it, so it has a historical connection with the Corvette.

Use of SS on the halo car also gives some marketing push to the lesser Chevys carrying the mark, and that's where the real money is. Z06 never did that with the general car buying public, so its dead too.

There's still going to be only two major Corvette variants, the regular C6 with 425 hp, and the SS with 600 supercharged hp, both sharing the same block and most internals with Chevy's new L93 DoD truck engine. At least dealer markups on the SS will be justified by the substantial performance differences between the SS and base cars, instead of just gouge the way they are on the current Z06.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by C2BOB
The street hemi's were pigs the first time they showed up as they will be this time. Does no one remember this. A good running 327 (in anything) would blow the doors off a 426 hemi.
No, I don't remember that. And I was around then. I also still have all my car magazines going back to 1965. The 426 hemi was seriously fast. The reason the performance figures don't hold up to todays cars is simple - tires.

But to say a 327 would "blow the doors off a 426 hemi" is not even remotely accurate.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
No, I don't remember that. And I was around then. I also still have all my car magazines going back to 1965. The 426 hemi was seriously fast. The reason the performance figures don't hold up to todays cars is simple - tires.

But to say a 327 would "blow the doors off a 426 hemi" is not even remotely accurate.
The 426 hemi was temperamental and a trick to keep in tune, so many owners didn't realize the full potential of that engine which is why many of the mopar faithful opted for the 440 6bbl. A rough running hemi would get waxed by many a small block, but in tune they were beasts.
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Originally Posted by shopdog

There's still going to be only two major Corvette variants, the regular C6 with 425 hp, and the SS with 600 supercharged hp, both sharing the same block and most internals with Chevy's new L93 DoD truck engine. At least dealer markups on the SS will be justified by the substantial performance differences between the SS and base cars, instead of just gouge the way they are on the current Z06.
Thanks for the info shopdog. Is it going to be a 6.2 L motor? You mentioned a truck motor - I assume the block will be aluminum, correct? Any news on V V T ?
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