Top Problem; when did it stop?
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Top Problem; when did it stop?
I took delivery of my C6 on May 8, 2006. The dealer says my VIN, 26618, is not affected. This would have to mean they started using a different glue before end of April. Is this possible or is the dealer wrong about the factory fixing the manufacturing problem?
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If you look at the sticky thread on top about roofs, there is a list of what Chevrolet believes are the affected VIN#s. I took delivery in January of 06 and mine is after the affected ones too.
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Originally Posted by adrnln1
If you look at the sticky thread on top about roofs, there is a list of what Chevrolet believes are the affected VIN#s. I took delivery in January of 06 and mine is after the affected ones too.
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The roof problem is one of design. The panel should have been designed with mechanical fasteners instead of glue. If we are lucky they will fix the problem for 2007. However it is also possible they will let it slide until the C7. But then again they could do nothing. There are a few problems with the C6 that were still present on the C5.
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Originally Posted by rmd8136
I took delivery of my C6 on May 8, 2006. The dealer says my VIN, 26618, is not affected. This would have to mean they started using a different glue before end of April. Is this possible or is the dealer wrong about the factory fixing the manufacturing problem?
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Mine de-laminated on Saturday it's a 2006 vin 12112 well outside the recall (delivered Jan 2006). I took it to the dealer today, they also stated it wasn't included in the recall. They want to replace it because it's too far gone.
I have no confidence that the new one will be any better. Looks like I'll be paying $1,600 for a transparent top
I had to park it outside for 2 weeks in the Florida sun, I think this is what did it in.
It seems to be a design problem. The top is smooth plastic which is just glued on a metal frame. It needs to have some tabs or screws to secure the top. On mine the glue was still stuck to the frame but not one spot of glue residue was on the top. Looks like it just pulled clean away, kind of like a Post-it note
I have no confidence that the new one will be any better. Looks like I'll be paying $1,600 for a transparent top
I had to park it outside for 2 weeks in the Florida sun, I think this is what did it in.
It seems to be a design problem. The top is smooth plastic which is just glued on a metal frame. It needs to have some tabs or screws to secure the top. On mine the glue was still stuck to the frame but not one spot of glue residue was on the top. Looks like it just pulled clean away, kind of like a Post-it note
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Burning Brakes
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What about tops purchased?
I purchased my solid roof from parts in the 1st quarter of 2005. It was unpainted. It pops when I am on rough road. At frst I thought is was the seals but I have lubricated the seals.
Do you think that roofs from parts will be affected?
Do you think that roofs from parts will be affected?
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Originally Posted by richbell
I purchased my solid roof from parts in the 1st quarter of 2005. It was unpainted. It pops when I am on rough road. At frst I thought is was the seals but I have lubricated the seals.
Do you think that roofs from parts will be affected?
Do you think that roofs from parts will be affected?
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Originally Posted by Indy-hp
Yepper.
Thanks for the reply!
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Top Problem; when did it stop?
.....when the last '05 rolled off the line.
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
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[QUOTE=DSOM Z51].....when the last '05 rolled off the line.
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
Just remember.....It took Volkwagen over thirty years to gut the "bugs"out
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
Just remember.....It took Volkwagen over thirty years to gut the "bugs"out
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[QUOTE=Larry B.]
The big difference with this bug is that it's just a matter of time until someone on a motorcycle riding behind a Vette gets seriously injured or killed by a flying top. I'd say there was some pressure on GM to come up with a good fix to this - and fast.
Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
.....when the last '05 rolled off the line.
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
Just remember.....It took Volkwagen over thirty years to gut the "bugs"out
Everybody knows that when the second year model of the C6 came out, the '06, that GM had "worked out all the bugs." Thats why you never buy a first year model.
Just remember.....It took Volkwagen over thirty years to gut the "bugs"out
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Will all C6 Tops Eventually Fail?
If this is a design problem and mechanical fasteners are needed, then all of them will fail when subjected to the sun long enough. Is that what we are saying?
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Originally Posted by rmd8136
If this is a design problem and mechanical fasteners are needed, then all of them will fail when subjected to the sun long enough. Is that what we are saying?
Pretty much. Unless they start using red Loctite.
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" Unless they start using red Loctite. "(green is better yet)
That is what amazes me.... There are many adhesives out there and Corvettes have been bonded together since the first one in 1953 so it is not a new thing for them. I know there are some materials that are hard to bond but I don't think there is ANY excuse for this roof problem, be it design, material, vendor or process.
That is what amazes me.... There are many adhesives out there and Corvettes have been bonded together since the first one in 1953 so it is not a new thing for them. I know there are some materials that are hard to bond but I don't think there is ANY excuse for this roof problem, be it design, material, vendor or process.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
" Unless they start using red Loctite. "(green is better yet)
That is what amazes me.... There are many adhesives out there and Corvettes have been bonded together since the first one in 1953 so it is not a new thing for them. I know there are some materials that are hard to bond but I don't think there is ANY excuse for this roof problem, be it design, material, vendor or process.
That is what amazes me.... There are many adhesives out there and Corvettes have been bonded together since the first one in 1953 so it is not a new thing for them. I know there are some materials that are hard to bond but I don't think there is ANY excuse for this roof problem, be it design, material, vendor or process.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
That is what amazes me.... There are many adhesives out there and Corvettes have been bonded together since the first one in 1953 so it is not a new thing for them. I know there are some materials that are hard to bond but I don't think there is ANY excuse for this roof problem, be it design, material, vendor or process.
I wish GM would release some info on the cause of the problem. It is odd that the C5 did not have this problem. One would think it was made similarly, but I don't know for certain. As with all bonding issues, it would seem likely to be either one of two things, 1) the adhesive is the wrong one to use, or 2) the parts were not cleaned and prepped properly before bonding. I'm guessing it is the latter, since some tops seem to be doing ok. The foam fix seems like a joke. How can foam possibly bond what the chosen adhesive can not?
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Originally Posted by SilverCoupe
If you'll look at the threads whose links are in that sticky, you'll find that the range of VINs for the recall has been expanded, although the VIN list is not specified.
The voluntary one listed a range of VIN's. The manditory one says 2005 and 2006 model years.
