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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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I went to dinner with a neighbor 2 nights ago and we used the NAV in his Acura TL (one of the most highly regarded NAV systems out there and the one that is most frequently used as the standard) and it too had difficulty with streets that weren't in his DB. He also said it some times suggests "wacky routings" that he ignores and within a few minutes it "re-calculates" the route and all is well.

I too have found that by ZOOMING in, it has much more granularity with regards to street displays.

My guess is these systems are about a 90% solution and there is no Holy Grail of NAV systems.


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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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My experience has been pretty good however it NEVER directs me to take any highways. In fact I might be on the highway and it always tells me to get off the next exit and has me taking the back streets or back roads or something. I mean it gets me to the right destination but seems to take a longer route. Anybody know why it always directs you OFF a major higway???
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Nav is cool even with its quirks.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Built-in nav was one of the reasons we bought the C6. It's far better than no nav at all, and the integration features are something that an aftermarket unit couldn't have. But overall, it's a second-rate unit compared to the one in my wife's Toyota. Hmmm... Toyota stuff better than GM? Why am I not surprised?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Blvdbrawler
My experience has been pretty good however it NEVER directs me to take any highways. In fact I might be on the highway and it always tells me to get off the next exit and has me taking the back streets or back roads or something. I mean it gets me to the right destination but seems to take a longer route. Anybody know why it always directs you OFF a major higway???
Again, I should leave this to the experts since I have no built in Nav myself, but perhaps there is an option you need to adjust? On my Garmin, it lets me set my 'style' of prefered route and what to specifically avoid -- toll roads? avoid hiways? unpaved? etc. It also has an option to learn my preferences as it goes.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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This is why I did not choose this option
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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[/B]Took another trip in my 2006; what a joy to drive except for the NAVIGATION SYSTEM. GM got a lot of money for a second rate system. The annotation feature fails to recognize some of the commands in the book. The lock out system which prevents you from changing destination while moving is a real pain in the a--, they should have integrated it into the passenger seat sensor since the passenger would be entering all the changes. The cheapo after market units have far more streets in its data bank; my Corvette system doesn’t even have my street! If it does not contain numerous streets, how can it direct you efficiently to you destination? This thing drops you off the freeway on to side streets, and then pops you back on the freeway a few miles later. This is NOT an asset to my car!
Sorry to hear of your grim misfortune. This is as bad as not having feet. Redding? Horrible,just horrible. Oh,the humanity...
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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I wonder if there is a way to hack the NAV unit so that you can make destination changes while on the fly?? I'm sure with all the teckies out there, someone should be able to.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Two Toes
[/B]Took another trip in my 2006; what a joy to drive except for the NAVIGATION SYSTEM. GM got a lot of money for a second rate system. The annotation feature fails to recognize some of the commands in the book. The lock out system which prevents you from changing destination while moving is a real pain in the a--, they should have integrated it into the passenger seat sensor since the passenger would be entering all the changes. The cheapo after market units have far more streets in its data bank; my Corvette system doesn’t even have my street! If it does not contain numerous streets, how can it direct you efficiently to you destination? This thing drops you off the freeway on to side streets, and then pops you back on the freeway a few miles later. This is NOT an asset to my car!

Greetings

I am interrested in a factory NAV. Do you have a price in mind. I would need the nav head unit, DVD and antenna.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniopaolo
Sorry to hear that its not working to your satisfaction. My experience has been just the opposite. I use it all of the time and the vast majority of the time I have found the data to be right on the mark. I too wish it would allow me more flexibility regarding inputing new requests when the car is moving but I suspect that this comes as a result of a conservative decision by gm's legal eagles.
I don't know if you have the HUD but I find it very effective in how it interfaces with the Nav and displays information.
Hopefully you can get an update of database for info in your area.

I assure you that when the thing is working the way it should it can really reduce the stress level of moving in unknown areas and reduce the level of intensity with your co-pilot (should there be one).

Anyway that has been my experience with the device.
Good luck.

You are correct about absolutely great nav in Cali. I have the stock nav unit also and it worked tremendously in California. Now I am stationed in Mississippi and the nav is far, far, less than stellar. Half the time it shows that I am not even on a road when I am on a major highway. I just think some of the po-dunk states (ie me in MS), are not mapped very well because half the people here can't even spell GPS much less use it. Although I do love my nav when not in MS.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Thank you all for your response. What makes this a disappointing unit is because this is my first car with it. I have used systems in rental cars and my sons Lexus (GREAT UNIT, altitude, BIG db, adjust on the fly, etc). When I know where I’m going and it does weird thinks, how can I trust it when I’m in BFE? Why would I think that GM would allow such an inferior unit in a Corvette? NORTY why don’t you like Redding? I took delivery of my 06, C6 in Oct 05. TrackNoob how do I update on line? Thanks
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Mine works PERFECT. I even moved to a new street that wasn't in the system. And my dealership up graded it for free. I have an after market one on my wife car. And I wouldn't give you a penny for it. I love the one on my C6.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivnXcitment
You are correct about absolutely great nav in Cali. I have the stock nav unit also and it worked tremendously in California. Now I am stationed in Mississippi and the nav is far, far, less than stellar. Half the time it shows that I am not even on a road when I am on a major highway. I just think some of the po-dunk states (ie me in MS), are not mapped very well because half the people here can't even spell GPS much less use it. Although I do love my nav when not in MS.
My car came with a little extra booklet about the nav system mapping, it discussed detailed-coverage vs non-detailed-coverage areas. Huge areas of the U.S. are non-detailed. When driving there, sometimes it shows the streets but not the names, sometimes gives just a few of the names, sometimes just a few of the streets, sometimes shows streets but the navchick announces "step by step directions are not available in this area." I had it turn me the wrong way down a one-way street (one-way sign was hard to see), as soon as i made the turn the navchick said "sorry, guidance not available in this area."
I told her I expected a, uh, favor for what she'd done, but she ignored me.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Anyone know how to get the updates? Two come with the car purchase.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gsport
my gripe about nav is, i drive with the top down mostly, and the screen is almost impossible to see in the day time...... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
you can adjust brightness and contrast.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
My guess is these systems are about a 90% solution and there is no Holy Grail of NAV systems.


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I've been doing a lot of hacking on the C6 nav trying to find hidden features and with some help, I managed to uncover the three access codes in my avatar.

I've found that most of the systems out there, be it the uber-cool Pioneer AVIC series, the Toyota/Lexus systems, the Acura systems, the Chevrolet systems, the Audi systems, the Land Rover systems, and too many others to mention all use the same "base" for their software.

When you're actually mucking around in the binaries, all of these systems look remarkably similar, even though there are significant differences. Denso provides the base "skeleton" if you will, and then it's up to the manufacturer to determine which features it's going to impliment and how. For instance, it appears that the "hooks" are there for our nav systems to play DVDs, but if the actual code is in there anywhere, it's offloaded onto other chips -- the Lexus systems have it built right in to the main program, along with all the climate controls.

There are a few manufacturers, like Infiniti that use a different system, and I think Garmin has their own propriatary format, but they are in the minority. The KIWI formatted maps that Denso uses tend to be the most comprehensive, but just because they update doesn't mean that GM is going to license the latest maps or release an update.

Currently, I'm working on trying to make "hybrid" discs to see if I we can use the map data from other manufacturers. However, getting access to the discs isn't the easiest thing in the world.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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I love my vet, but yes the nav does suck. The route selection always takes me the long way, but since I am in a vet that’s okay. I have a Tom Tom that I use in my other car and that works a lot better with nicer graphics. P.S. the touch scene with the Corvette logo makes it worth it for me.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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I didn't order the Nav either, i just don't find it that useful.https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...lies/crazy.gif
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Blvdbrawler
My experience has been pretty good however it NEVER directs me to take any highways. In fact I might be on the highway and it always tells me to get off the next exit and has me taking the back streets or back roads or something. I mean it gets me to the right destination but seems to take a longer route. Anybody know why it always directs you OFF a major higway???
Surprised no one stepped up yet to answer this - it's in the Route Preferences. You undoubtably have the Allow Major Roads (or whatever it's called) turned off.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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I've used several systems/applications - HP NAVTEQ, Delomre and Microsoft - they all suffer from the same short comings to some extent. Those of us who can ead a map some times find the directions of the system down right dumb - if not outdated. Tahke the G Bush (Sr) from Fort Worth to Dallas and your Vette is a BOAT! I believe the issue is one of updates - WHEN WILL GM ISSUE THE NEXT UPDATE FOR THOSE WITH 2005'S???? BTW there is a software update (6-9 months old) to let the CD read/play MP3s
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