What Am I Doing Wrong?
What am I doing wrong? Is my money not good. Does my $40k not spend like other peoples? RANT, RANT, RANT...
There, I feel better. Thanks for listening...
The Tire Guy
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What am I doing wrong? Is my money not good. Does my $40k not spend like other peoples? RANT, RANT, RANT...
There, I feel better. Thanks for listening...
The Tire Guy
Tire Guy and welcome,I'm hoping that your timing might just be a little off. Remember that this is 4th of July week and many people take vacation this time of year. I know that this not a legitimate excuse in the business world but often, dealerships assign one person to internet sales. Give it a few more days. Many of the people that you mentioned have very good reputations and I find it very hard to believe that they would just ignore your repeated attempts to get in touch with them.
Paul
1. $40K?
2. PM, email, messsage to multiple dealers...
3. Asking for "pricing"; not saying "Here are the particulars I want, here is what I will pay, can you sell me this car at this price now?"
Frankly, if I was a salesdude (I'm not) and got the odor of a 'price-determining (WTF?), multiple-simultaneous-feeler-placing, low-balling, non-specific, tire-kicking, anonymous messenger', you can bet I would not be one bit interested in returning a query. Time is money. You don't smell like serious. Not saying you aren't, just saying you are telegraphing all the wrong signals. IMHO. (You asked!)
I agree w/ the above post though, it's 4th of July week, a lot of people are taking time off (at least in my business they are, my office is a ghost town).
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1. $40K?
2. PM, email, messsage to multiple dealers...
3. Asking for "pricing"; not saying "Here are the particulars I want, here is what I will pay, can you sell me this car at this price now?"
Frankly, if I was a salesdude (I'm not) and got the odor of a 'price-determining (WTF?), multiple-simultaneous-feeler-placing, low-balling, non-specific, tire-kicking, anonymous messenger', you can bet I would not be one bit interested in returning a query. Time is money. You don't smell like serious. Not saying you aren't, just saying you are telegraphing all the wrong signals. IMHO. (You asked!)

Thanks for reply. Yeah, yeah -- start with supporting vendor, they are great. And $40K neighborhood is obtainable on a "pick it up, no hassles, in stock, gonna move it today" cah-n-carry type deal. That is exactly what I did on my own 1LT
But my point was that you gotta be determined, clear on what you want, willing to commit to a purchase if terms/car/delivery meets reasonable criteria. And you gotta advertise that fact, if true: "Dave, I really want a great deal -- anything less than $40 K OTD is what I need, but I am ready to buy today, have cash, color not an object, I will fly in and pick it up, no courtesy delivery to arrange or last minute bail out for R8C..."
If you are just 'shopping', expect salesman to smell it on ya and not bother.
Will direct all family and friends his way. He IS setting the standard for greatness in car sales with his hospitality and professionalism.
http://www.corvettesbyrickdaniel.com/
1. $40K?
2. PM, email, messsage to multiple dealers...
3. Asking for "pricing"; not saying "Here are the particulars I want, here is what I will pay, can you sell me this car at this price now?"
Frankly, if I was a salesdude (I'm not) and got the odor of a 'price-determining (WTF?), multiple-simultaneous-feeler-placing, low-balling, non-specific, tire-kicking, anonymous messenger', you can bet I would not be one bit interested in returning a query. Time is money. You don't smell like serious. Not saying you aren't, just saying you are telegraphing all the wrong signals. IMHO. (You asked!)






http://www.corvetteconti.com/welcome/

Give him a call he will treat you right !!!!!!!!!
Will direct all family and friends his way. He IS setting the standard for greatness in car sales with his hospitality and professionalism.
http://www.corvettesbyrickdaniel.com/
I think I saw a post where he was taking a well deserved vacation though but you could talk to Miriam, his assistant.
Perhaps used is what you need to look at if 40k is what you have to spend
Unless it is a base, base, base model, I dont think you can get a 2006 for 40k.. I know.. I looked. Nationwide. Kerbeck was great, but the freight to Washington State was like $1,400 (for his stock units), and Carl Jackson was awesome and I pretty much had a deal with him on a 2006, Coupe A6 loaded..and then this 2005 popped up. Carl and Dave are great gentlemen, and do not even come close to what one would consider a "car salesman". Just real fair guys, doin their jobs. Call them.
In any case, good luck and get a vette soon!
But my point was that you gotta be determined, clear on what you want, willing to commit to a purchase if terms/car/delivery meets reasonable criteria. And you gotta advertise that fact, if true: "Dave, I really want a great deal -- anything less than $40 K OTD is what I need, but I am ready to buy today, have cash, color not an object, I will fly in and pick it up, no courtesy delivery to arrange or last minute bail out for R8C..."
If you are just 'shopping', expect salesman to smell it on ya and not bother.
I guess that is the part I don't get, as a salesman myself I know I have to cast a wide net and cast many times to make the sales. So even if I was a shopper doesn't it make sense that some enterprising salesman would notice that I am an informed CF member and give me the time of day? I will buy my new MR with auto and 2LT from someone... bank on it.

[DISCLAIMER: I am going to be making ASSUMPTIONS like I am a salesman. These assumptions could be wrong, but will be triggered by cues from the generic 'customer'. I am not making judgments on the OP, just saying what a salesman *might* be hearing; all in an attempt to answer the question -- "Why were my efforts unsuccessful so far?"]
A self-confessed PITA, and we are not even to the problem description yet. Diagnosis: This is gonna be a long day if I engage this yayhoo...

Rest of phrases that history teaches us come up when the string on this particular model of GI Joe is pulled repeatedly:
"Just looking, thanks"
"Hey, my dad had one of those"
"My buddy got one for half that"
"I could buy one down the road for $5,000 lower"
"Okay, now I gotta see about a loan and a job from my pop"
"Call me" equals "sign up for an hour of dialog with no close at the end"
Note the decided difference from:
"I am XXX YYY at VVV and have $45K to buy stock# 123456 that I saw on CF. If the car is still available please consider it sold, as I have financing and/or cash prearranged today! My number to confirm a deal is xxx-xxxx."
interested on a car they have listed on this forum
I am "interested" in J Lo, but something tells me we just ain't hooking up.
Better results than I might expect.
Nothing received from anybody, no calls, e-mails, PMs...NOTHING.
It only takes ONE message from the right guy to close the deal, not a swarm of panting synchophants begging you to chat endlessly.
Is my money not good. Does my $40k not spend like other peoples? RANT, RANT, RANT...
So, you see the clues now?
Last edited by TrackNoob; Jul 6, 2006 at 08:41 PM.
self-confessed PITA, and not even to the problem description yet. Diagnosis: This is gonna be a long day if I engage this yayhoo...
Chicks don't dig it when you tell 'em about who you bumped uglies with last night. Salesmen are like chicks.
Rest of phrases that history teaches us come up when the string on this particular model of GI Joe is pulled repeatedly:
"Just looking, thanks"
"Hey, my dad had one of those"
"My buddy got one for half that"
"I could buy one down the road for $5,000 lower"
"Okay, now I gotta see about a loan and a job from my pop"
"Call me" equals "sign up for an hour of dialog"
Note the decided difference from:
"I am XXX YYY at VVV and have $45KL for stock# 123456 that I saw on CF, if the car is still available please consider it sold, I have financing and/or cash prearranged today! My number to confirm is xxx-xxxx."
I am "interested" in J Lo, but something tells me we ain't hooking up.
Birthright guaranteeing instant recognition? Most forum sales are NOT local, so some local guy wanted to drift by and chat might not seem as exciting to the salesguy as to our intrepid shopper.
Many serious CF consumers (and eventual buyers) lurk study and sharpen pencils for months before they POUNCE with authority on a deal they want, now.
Better results than I might expect.
Are you lonely for a friend, or a buyer reaady to purchase a car?
It only takes ONE message from the right guy to close the deal, not a swarm of panting synchophants begging you to chat endlessly.
What we call a 'motivated seller'. Usually a reason for that.
Everything, as described above.
Please read that. Do you think dangling a low ball price in front of people who get premiums on verts and Z06s all day long is an enticement (BWAAHAHAHA) especially with attitude all over it, and the fact it is proscpective, i.e. anyone can 'say' $40K. But is it in hand? Certified funds? Ready to wire? OR is it a "buidget" you set in your mind, for what you think you can pay per month, when you finally wander down to the savings and loan to ask for a loan officer?
I do too!
So, you see the clues now?

Didn't know I was so clueless, thanks for setting me straight. You are right about one thing, I did ask. I won't ask again. I guess that was your point.













