Solid Roof Panel - What do you think?
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Racer
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Solid Roof Panel - What do you think?
I bought a used roof panel that had delaminated (based on the description) over the phone. I am told that the paint is in excelelent condition. I plan on taking it to the dealer for the recall. Will they cover it or not? I hope so. I only paid $250 shipped, so it is a fairly inexpensive gamble. It seems that they should cover it since my car is in the VIN range, but who know? Wish me luck!
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Originally Posted by CoolBlueC6
I bought a used roof panel that had delaminated (based on the description) over the phone. I am told that the paint is in excelelent condition. I plan on taking it to the dealer for the recall. Will they cover it or not? I hope so. I only paid $250 shipped, so it is a fairly inexpensive gamble. It seems that they should cover it since my car is in the VIN range, but who know? Wish me luck!
Of course they will not.
The first thing they will do is put in your car's VIN into the system, and if you got the transparent only option, they would not be obliged to repair some 'take-off' roof that you got from a junkyard or other source.
Why not have the original owner get the new roof under their warranty, THEN you purchase that one?
(IANAL, but I believe that warranty is transferrable on automobiles, but not on removed components from those cars
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Last edited by TrackNoob; Jul 10, 2006 at 07:15 PM.
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Pretty sure that they only replace with new now. And, there is a wait for the "new" style construction (mid August). The dealer doesn't 'repair' any tops any longer, they just swap them out. New part number is for a SMC roof panel. This applies to all mfg before May 31, 2006. The old p/ns 19120484 and 19120244 are to be discontinued July. Covers coupes and Z06. Even the 'old' TSB stated that if separation has occured, replace the top panel DO NOT repair.
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Racer
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Originally Posted by TrackNoob
Of course they will not.
The first thing they will do is put in your car's VIN into the system, and if you got the transparent only option, they would not be obliged to repair some 'take-off' roof that you got from a junkyard or other source.
Why not have the original owner get the new roof under their warranty, THEN you purchase that one?
(IANAL, but I believe that warranty is transferrable on automobiles, but not on removed components from those cars )
The first thing they will do is put in your car's VIN into the system, and if you got the transparent only option, they would not be obliged to repair some 'take-off' roof that you got from a junkyard or other source.
Why not have the original owner get the new roof under their warranty, THEN you purchase that one?
(IANAL, but I believe that warranty is transferrable on automobiles, but not on removed components from those cars
)
If not, I plan to try and fix it.
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Originally Posted by TrackNoob
Of course they will not.
The first thing they will do is put in your car's VIN into the system, and if you got the transparent only option, they would not be obliged to repair .....
The first thing they will do is put in your car's VIN into the system, and if you got the transparent only option, they would not be obliged to repair .....
That's the way it usually works.
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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
Was it?
Uummmmm.......no. My thought is, that it should be covered regardless of ownership. Someone probably got rid of it in frustration prior to the recall. There are likely numerous fellow members here that have gotten rid of their tops in frustration. Like I said, if they don't cover it, oh well. It's just that they should.
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Originally Posted by CoolBlueC6
I bought a used roof panel that had delaminated (based on the description) over the phone. I am told that the paint is in excelelent condition. I plan on taking it to the dealer for the recall. Will they cover it or not? I hope so. I only paid $250 shipped, so it is a fairly inexpensive gamble. It seems that they should cover it since my car is in the VIN range, but who know? Wish me luck!
In some places that would be called fraud.
Al
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Originally Posted by CoolBlueC6
Who is to say that the roof wasn't purchased from a dealer at the time of sale.
Look, you well may be able to pull it off. But, I think you hit the nail on the head already - a $250 gamble.
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Originally Posted by TrackNoob
"Receipt, sir....?"
Look, you well may be able to pull it off. But, I think you hit the nail on the head already - a $250 gamble.
Look, you well may be able to pull it off. But, I think you hit the nail on the head already - a $250 gamble.
You are right...Now I am starting to feel bad about even asking about a fix (now replacement). Oh well, I will just have to feel them out at the dealership when it comes in.
Thanks for acting as a sounding board guys...
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Fix it yourself. One of the people on this forum used an Aircraft grade 2 part epoxy to fix theirs.
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It is a GM part and it is defective. I don't see the moral dilemma myself. He bought it, he did not steal it off someone's car or anything. Take it in, worst they can say is no.
If I buy something used and it is still under warranty I would have no problem using the warranty. Most warranty's are transferable to the new owner, I would think a GM part would be also.
If I buy something used and it is still under warranty I would have no problem using the warranty. Most warranty's are transferable to the new owner, I would think a GM part would be also.
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Originally Posted by Gov'sGuy
In some places that would be called fraud.
Al
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Originally Posted by shurite44
It is a GM part and it is defective. I don't see the moral dilemma myself. He bought it, he did not steal it off someone's car or anything. Take it in, worst they can say is no.
If I buy something used and it is still under warranty I would have no problem using the warranty. Most warranty's are transferable to the new owner, I would think a GM part would be also.
If I buy something used and it is still under warranty I would have no problem using the warranty. Most warranty's are transferable to the new owner, I would think a GM part would be also.
That said, a defective top means that GM owes someone a new top. It makes sense that someone would be whoever has the top in their legal possession at the time of the claim. That would be the right thing to do, but GM isn't noted for doing the right thing.
Racer
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Originally Posted by CoolBlueC6
I bought a used roof panel that had delaminated (based on the description) over the phone. I am told that the paint is in excelelent condition. I plan on taking it to the dealer for the recall. Will they cover it or not? I hope so. I only paid $250 shipped, so it is a fairly inexpensive gamble. It seems that they should cover it since my car is in the VIN range, but who know? Wish me luck!
The way I read this it seems there is an intent to deceive involving an item of value, two elements of fraud.
I'm sure his or any Lawyer could make a counter argument.... while he's out on bail.
Al
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Originally Posted by Gov'sGuy
In the above quote, this person purchased what he knew to be a defective part for $250.00. He now owns a defective part and intends to pass it off as having come from his car; he pointed out that his vin is within range.
The way I read this it seems there is an intent to deceive involving an item of value, two elements of fraud.
I'm sure his or any Lawyer could make a counter argument.... while he's out on bail.
Al
The way I read this it seems there is an intent to deceive involving an item of value, two elements of fraud.
I'm sure his or any Lawyer could make a counter argument.... while he's out on bail.
Al
I tried to get you off your butts and get GM to solve a legitimate problem and I was bashed.
I will worry about myself from here on as this group are a bunch of LOOSERS!
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Isn't this about your 10th "retirement" from the forum? All in the last week? What are ya, Michael Jordan or something??? 
<btw> "LOSERS" only has 1 "O"... when you call people derogatory names, make sure you spell them correctly.
<btw> "LOSERS" only has 1 "O"... when you call people derogatory names, make sure you spell them correctly.
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I know you really wouldn't do this and are asking the question on a public forum just for fun.
But why do you believe GM is going to repair a top that didn't come with your car and is somehow damaged? The liabilities are far too great for them. Think what would happen if it came apart at speed and someone was injured or killed. The lawyers would eat everyone involved alive including you.
My advice, don't do it and don't use that top. Hopefully someone with a legal back ground will chime in.
Tom
PS: Since you've gone public if something were to happen, your liability just sky rocketed. You probably shouldn't have asked this on a public forum?
But why do you believe GM is going to repair a top that didn't come with your car and is somehow damaged? The liabilities are far too great for them. Think what would happen if it came apart at speed and someone was injured or killed. The lawyers would eat everyone involved alive including you.
My advice, don't do it and don't use that top. Hopefully someone with a legal back ground will chime in.
Tom
PS: Since you've gone public if something were to happen, your liability just sky rocketed. You probably shouldn't have asked this on a public forum?
Last edited by AFVETTE; Jul 11, 2006 at 08:45 AM.
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I would bring the top in and tell the truth! What some are claiming is if I happened to buy a used tire that was under recall because it was dangerous the manufacture is off the hook? Would I be obligated to throw it away even it was almost brand new? I've gotten recall notices from manufacturers even though I was the 2nd owner of the vehicle. If GM made the part and it’s unsafe I don’t see why they aren’t obligated to fix it within certain time limits. No point in lying about it either. Just bring it in and see what they say……. Nothing to lose at this point in time!
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