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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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I had my first issue today. I went to run an errand and when I came back, I got in my car, hit the memory button, pushed in the clutch, hit the start button and the engine would not turn over! The AC came on and other electronics worked. After a few seconds the gauges went throught thier motions (lit up and did thier sweep) like they do when the car starts. I tried hitting the start button a few times but the engine would not turn over. The gauges did the same thing - sweeped and lit up after a few seconds delay.

I was perplexed so I got out of the car and waited for it to lock, and then repeated everything again, but to no avail. I then called GM to send a tow truck. It would take an hour for a truck to come so I went to grab a bite. After eating I came back (after about 30 mins) and figured let me try it again. I did and this time it worked! I cancelled the tow truck and went my merry way. However, I still want to take it to the dealer to see what they have to say.

Have any of you guys experienced this, and what was the root-cause and resolution?

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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I'm not where I can read the owner's manual so this may be irrelevant. But did you have the emergency brake on? Mine is always on when I start the car so I don't know if it is required or not.

And you're sure that the fob was where the car could read it? These are just guesses. But maybe you can do some of these things in the accessory mode but not start the car. Heck, I don't know. I'm going to have to go home and check out a few of these things.

But it seems to me that something was interferring with the car recognizing that it was ready to start the engine.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Didn't have my manual tranny C6 long enough to remember whether or not the handbrake had to be set, but the owner's manual doesn't say anything about it being required.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Yes, the brake was set. I went through my startup motions like three times. Even exited the car and made sure it locked then entered again and tried to start. I guess this is a new issue (for the forum at least).
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Are you absolutely, positively sure that you had the clutch all the way in. On a couple of occasions, I have experienced the same thing only to discover that I had not fully depressed the clutch.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Are you absolutely, positively sure that you had the clutch all the way in. On a couple of occasions, I have experienced the same thing only to discover that I had not fully depressed the clutch.
This happens sometimes when I do not have the seat all the way forward to my preferred driving position. It doesn't take much for the pedal to be off the floorboard enough to engage the lockout (or disengage the starter, however it works)
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by indjun
Yes, the brake was set. I went through my startup motions like three times. Even exited the car and made sure it locked then entered again and tried to start. I guess this is a new issue (for the forum at least).
emerg, brake has nothing to do with it starting.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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What struck me as weird was how the gauges went through thier motions as if the car had just fired up. This was the biggest sign that something was amiss.
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Originally Posted by PappyTinker
This happens sometimes when I do not have the seat all the way forward to my preferred driving position. It doesn't take much for the pedal to be off the floorboard enough to engage the lockout (or disengage the starter, however it works)
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FunDriver
I'm not where I can read the owner's manual
Do a search and you can download the entire manual as a PDF which you can keep on your desktop and refer to whenever you're at your computer.
Never mind: I did the search for you:


https://www.mygmlink.com/pdf/go2cont...06corvette.pdf

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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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I've had the same thing happen twice about 5 mopnths ago. On both occassions after 15 minutes or so (while flatbed was on the way) the Vette started and all was normal. Both the dealer and this forum's concensus was that the cause was outside electrical interference (there were several forum posts saying this). I changed fobs and it has not happened since ........go figure
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
Are you absolutely, positively sure that you had the clutch all the way in. On a couple of occasions, I have experienced the same thing only to discover that I had not fully depressed the clutch.
Sounds like the clutch was not all the way in.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by indjun
What struck me as weird was how the gauges went through thier motions as if the car had just fired up. This was the biggest sign that something was amiss.
Nothing odd about it at all. This is exactly what happens when you hit the start button and the clutch is not 100% fully depressed.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JimTN
Didn't have my manual tranny C6 long enough to remember whether or not the handbrake had to be set, but the owner's manual doesn't say anything about it being required.
The brake does not need to be set. I don't set mine often and have had no problems.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by xlr8rvette
Both the dealer and this forum's concensus was that the cause was outside electrical interference (there were several forum posts saying this). I changed fobs and it has not happened since.go figure
I had a friend that parked his C6 next to a lit up Vegas Hotel sign, and the car would not start until they pulled it far enough away from the signs electrical interference.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Nothing odd about it at all. This is exactly what happens when you hit the start button and the clutch is not 100% fully depressed.
Happens to my wife and I about about 2% of the time, by my estimation. Every single time, it's because we haven't got the pedal firmly on the floor.

I think it's because we're both bad about pushing just far enough to disengage the clutch.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Had the same thing a year ago. Took it to the dealer, all checked out OK. Stumbled into the "clutch" depression and sure enough, I could duplicate it on cue. If it happens again, slide forward in the seat and "fully" (to the floor until it stops) depress teh clutch pedal. I've driven manuals for 20 years and never experienced this type of "operator error" however I'm confident this was the problem all along.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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Yep, same thing happened to me the other day. I realized that the clutch wasn't all the way in on the third try. Geeze, I was getting all panicky! LOL
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by indjun
What struck me as weird was how the gauges went through thier motions as if the car had just fired up. This was the biggest sign that something was amiss.
Nothing amiss. To test it, hit the start switch without pushing the clutch at all, you'll get the same results.

By the way, if you want to do the equivalent of turning "the key" to the on position (not accessory), you can use this same procedure and all of the electronics will be live without the 20 min. cutoff kicking in like it does in accessory mode.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gota07
By the way, if you want to do the equivalent of turning "the key" to the on position (not accessory), you can use this same procedure and all of the electronics will be live without the 20 min. cutoff kicking in like it does in accessory mode.
I did not know about this. Thanks for the tip.

Well folks, the car started fine this morning, and based on the responses here, it may have been either external electrical intereference or I did not have the clutch fully depressed (which is unlikely as I thought about this when it happened and made sure it was, but what the hey, anything is possible), so I won't bother tieing the car up at the dealer only to have them tell me everything is OK. If it happens again, then I may have to do that.

Thanks for the responses all.
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