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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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my money goes where i want thats why i live and work in the land of the free. regardless of where it is built i buy corvette because i love the car and admire the history its an american icon i chose to be a part of thanks to the US of A..
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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No such thing as a completely "American" made car.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
Don't you have a retirement plan at work?

401K, I am not lucky enough to have a pension plan.
And this is at a fortune 500 company.

Bare in mind that GM was paying off employees to retire early the problem has gotten so serious
A large percentage of GM employees are being paid, but no longer work. And the lifespan has increased, so more healthcare to pay for.

General Motors Getting Eaten Alive by a Free Lunch
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by carjon
I believe that the same auto worker unions cover Canada as they do the US.
GM probably will build where they have available plant space and capacity instead of building a new plant somewhere where they might have modern equipment and facilities and be able to produce quality vehicles cheaply.

When I went to Bowling Green to watch my Corvette get built, I bought a C6 cap at the Museum. When I got home I noticed the cap was made in China. You'd think and official Corvette cap purchased at the museum in Bowling Green would be made in the USA.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Never had a hangup about "BUY AMERICAN"

Why?
Because if you limit yourself to that which is only domestically produced, you tend to miss out on the "finer things of life".


Anything you purchase, regardless of "country of origin", as long as you purchase in the USA is the quintesscential definition of "BUY AMERICAN", as you are supporting American business and the complete supply chain.
Profit goes to USA importer, freight company that transports, Brokers, wholesalers, distributors, down to the retail point of sale.

Guess you "staunch unionists" walk around partially clothed, don't watch much television, limit your diet, and will never experience the exhiliration of a V-12 Ferrari...

How plain vanilla a life it must be, not to sample what the world offers...and I am a capitalist, believe in international trade, and free enterprise in the USA !
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by carjon
I believe that the same auto worker unions cover Canada as they do the US.
GM probably will build where they have available plant space and capacity instead of building a new plant somewhere where they might have modern equipment and facilities and be able to produce quality vehicles cheaply.

When I went to Bowling Green to watch my Corvette get built, I bought a C6 cap at the Museum. When I got home I noticed the cap was made in China. You'd think and official Corvette cap purchased at the museum in Bowling Green would be made in the USA.

The Canadian tax payer is helping buyers pay for GM cars built in Canada.........

"Because health care is public, labour costs in Canada are between $1,000 and $1,500 cheaper for each vehicle."

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by carjon
I believe that the same auto worker unions cover Canada as they do the US.
Actually, Canadians receive government healthcare so the cost of union labor is significantly less for the auto companies.

oops... didn't see the post above... sorry for the redundancy.

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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I will never buy a foreign made car. I heard though that the new Camaro will be made in Canada...........eh, now I don't know if I want to buy it or not. Why can't they make the Camaro in the US where it's supposed to be made?
Totally agree. I was disappointed to hear the new Camaro is to be assembled in Canada. Although Canada, might as well be the 51st state. Their employees are treated fairly.

The Corvette is closer to 80% North American parts. Yes the LS2 is made in Canada, but the zo6 engine is hand built in MI.

Probably won't buy a Camaro because it is made in Canada. Not that I don't like Canadians, just Camaro's history is all American.

Likewise if Corvette assembly was moved to Canada or Mexico, I wouldn't buy another one.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CandyVette
I will never buy a foreign made car. I heard though that the new Camaro will be made in Canada...........eh, now I don't know if I want to buy it or not. Why can't they make the Camaro in the US where it's supposed to be made?
Have you checked the label in your skivvies lately ?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jb3472
--- As for the LS2 they are built in Ont, Canada but the Z06 engine is built in Wixom, MI by one engine builder. That guy has the coolest job! This was told to me at the Corvette Buyers Tour in B.G.

Each Z06 engine is assembled by one person BUT one person does NOT build all 6,000+ Z06 engines a year. The guy would have to be a superman to hand assemble aprx. 24 motors a day.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lemans06conv
:----- Not that I don't like Canadians, just Camaro's history is all American.

The last generation Camaro/Firebird (98-02) was assembled in Canada
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
The last generation Camaro/Firebird (1998-2002) was assembled in Canada. Why not the next generation?
yup...
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lemans06conv
Totally agree. I was disappointed to hear the new Camaro is to be assembled in Canada. Although Canada, might as well be the 51st state. Their employees are treated fairly.

The Corvette is closer to 80% North American parts. Yes the LS2 is made in Canada, but the zo6 engine is hand built in MI.

Probably won't buy a Camaro because it is made in Canada. Not that I don't like Canadians, just Camaro's history is all American.

Likewise if Corvette assembly was moved to Canada or Mexico, I wouldn't buy another one.
Are you kidding? All of the 4th generation was assembled in Canada.

"1993 was the debut year for the fourth generation Camaro, and production continued until 2002. Production was moved from GM's Van Nuys, California assembly plant to Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec, Canada in 1993. The new design incorporated lightweight plastic body panels over a steel spaceframe, and a much improved suspension design. The 1993 Camaro also featured the LT1 V8 engine that had been introduced in the Corvette one year earlier, as well as an optional six-speed manual transmission when ordered with the V8."


I don't even know how to comment on OregonC6's post. May want to consider a user name change to "xenophobe" in the future.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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My 07' window sticker says 85% US/Canada with the manual trans made in Mexico.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flaskier99
Are you kidding? All of the 4th generation was assembled in Canada.

"1993 was the debut year for the fourth generation Camaro, and production continued until 2002. Production was moved from GM's Van Nuys, California assembly plant to Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec, Canada in 1993. The new design incorporated lightweight plastic body panels over a steel spaceframe, and a much improved suspension design. The 1993 Camaro also featured the LT1 V8 engine that had been introduced in the Corvette one year earlier, as well as an optional six-speed manual transmission when ordered with the V8."


I don't even know how to comment on OregonC6's post. May want to consider a user name change to "xenophobe" in the future.
I was referring to the original Camaros, which GM is trying to imitate in their new body style. I was not referring to the 4th gen. The 4th gen is inmo, not because it is made in Canada. Just fugly--too many produced.

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Originally Posted by lemans06conv
I was referring to the original Camaros, which GM is trying to imitate in their new body style. I was not referring to the 4th gen. The 4th gen is inmo
Sorry, no offense intended. I guess I was just irratated over the other post.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:59 AM
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None taken, my LMB brother or sister I was a little confused with that other post as well. Couldn't follow his logic.
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Originally Posted by Fiefdom
I pride myself on buying and supporting American products and have never, not never will, bought a foreign car, but does anyone know exactly the percentage of parts in a Vette that are not make in USA ?

I thought there might be a web site some where with that type on info.

I would think some are Canadian and Mexican made, our 51st and 52nd states, but I was wondering about overseas.

Any info would be appreciated.
For some reason, most seem to have a problem with change... the world economy sure has... The good old days were great, and I would like to see many things stay the way they once were... but "it is what it is". Very little is produced in the USA these days... and it will be that way as long as the pirates are in control of the ship... Unfortunately, it appears the ship has pretty much sunk
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Originally Posted by Jimbeaux
For some reason, most seem to have a problem with change... the world economy sure has... The good old days were great, and I would like to see many things stay the way they once were... but "it is what it is". Very little is produced in the USA these days... and it will be that way as long as the pirates are in control of the ship... Unfortunately, it appears the ship has pretty much sunk
Sad but true !
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Avoiding "foreign cars" is not only impossible, but silly. We now live in a world economy, so integrated that it is impossible to define anything as foreign or domestic. The silly part, well, what is sillier, putting foreign gas and oil in your American car, or rolling on foreign rubber. Why would you even want to avoid foreign goods, make a statement? What statement, I don't understand capitalism? To make this statement on the internet(World Wide Web, remember) is the most absurd part.
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