Top recall question?
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Top recall question?
Today I called my dealer to set up an appointment to have the foam injected into my top, before it delaminates. I saw that my VIN was in the range of the recall and we had received a letter from Chevy a while back on the recall subject. He said that it takes less than an hour to do and set me up with an appointment. A few minutes later, he called me back and told me that the recall is VIN specific and my car isn't on the list approved for the recall.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SDCEB
Today I called my dealer to set up an appointment to have the foam injected into my top, before it delaminates. I saw that my VIN was in the range of the recall and we had received a letter from Chevy a while back on the recall subject. He said that it takes less than an hour to do and set me up with an appointment. A few minutes later, he called me back and told me that the recall is VIN specific and my car isn't on the list approved for the recall.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
I have been wondering the same thing. I don't accept that it is due to high temperature and humidity conditions. We have had several 100+ days in the Northwest and I've made sure that the Corvette was out and cooking in the sun. If those were the responsible factors, failure will occur in all coupes eventually and should not be excluded now.
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Originally Posted by bullets1
This is the one question that has never been authoritatively addressed.
I have been wondering the same thing. I don't accept that it is due to high temperature and humidity conditions. We have had several 100+ days in the Northwest and I've made sure that the Corvette was out and cooking in the sun. If those were the responsible factors, failure will occur in all coupes eventually and should not be excluded now.
I have been wondering the same thing. I don't accept that it is due to high temperature and humidity conditions. We have had several 100+ days in the Northwest and I've made sure that the Corvette was out and cooking in the sun. If those were the responsible factors, failure will occur in all coupes eventually and should not be excluded now.
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I was thinking the same thing, but then with 13,000 and 18 months on the car I took it across the desert at 80-85 mph... and it started creaking like crazy. So my guess is that heat and pressure does 'em in.
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Essentially all '05 and '06 tops will need to be replaced by the new SMC tops. At this point in time it seems that the foam repair is only a temporary fix, and it's about 50-50 whether it even holds or not. Avoid this 'repair' if you can. If your top seems fine, keep a close eye on it, avoid excess heat if you can, and carry a roll of duct tape with you in the car until the SMC roofs start being more readily available. It probably will take months to catch up with everyone.
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From: Menifee (I.E.) CA
I received my recall letter months ago and went in and it only needed the injection.
I'm going to call them tomorrow to ask them if they have ordered my SMC top. I read the letter as meaning everyone will get the new top, delamination or not.
I'm going to call them tomorrow to ask them if they have ordered my SMC top. I read the letter as meaning everyone will get the new top, delamination or not.
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From: Gonzales Louisiana
Originally Posted by SDCEB
Today I called my dealer to set up an appointment to have the foam injected into my top, before it delaminates. I saw that my VIN was in the range of the recall and we had received a letter from Chevy a while back on the recall subject. He said that it takes less than an hour to do and set me up with an appointment. A few minutes later, he called me back and told me that the recall is VIN specific and my car isn't on the list approved for the recall.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
I'm wondering how mine managed to be in a window where there is no problem and so needs no repair. Did I just hit a good day or what? I would think that my top was made by the same contractor, with the same process and materials and the others and so it would be subject to the same risk. Has there been any good explaination for the VIN gaps in the recall? I don't see why they don't just fix it and not take a chance?
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked and answered too many times. Thanks.
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i wonder how many coupes are included in that VIN run (55100002-55135053). total is over 25000. how many coupes?
i had my car in for an oil change yesterday. i had the svc mgr look up the latest advisoy and he said it was still to "check and then foam as necessary). i'm not too happey with that since the closest dealer in NH with a body shop is about 40 mi from me.
i'm going to wait for a definative recall. hopefully my roof will hold up till then!
i had my car in for an oil change yesterday. i had the svc mgr look up the latest advisoy and he said it was still to "check and then foam as necessary). i'm not too happey with that since the closest dealer in NH with a body shop is about 40 mi from me.
i'm going to wait for a definative recall. hopefully my roof will hold up till then!
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My VIN was in the range but not included. It failed anyway and I got a new SMC roof.
I still don't understand why the dealer would refuse to:
A. Inspect your top for signs of delamination IAW the latest Customer Satisfaction Program 05112D - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1481681
B. If delaminated (up to a certain %) inject the foam as a temporary fix until the new SMC can be obtained
C. Confirm it's delaminated beyonf GM specs and order a new SMC roof - that's what happened to me and what my dealer did.
Did the dealer confirm delamination, that the key right now?
Tom
I still don't understand why the dealer would refuse to:
A. Inspect your top for signs of delamination IAW the latest Customer Satisfaction Program 05112D - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1481681
B. If delaminated (up to a certain %) inject the foam as a temporary fix until the new SMC can be obtained
C. Confirm it's delaminated beyonf GM specs and order a new SMC roof - that's what happened to me and what my dealer did.
Did the dealer confirm delamination, that the key right now?
Tom
Last edited by AFVETTE; Aug 30, 2006 at 12:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
My VIN was in the range but not included. It failed anyway and I got a new SMC roof.
I still don't understand why the dealer would refuse to:
A. Inspect your top for signes of delamination IAW the latest Customer Satisfaction Program 05112D - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1481681
B. If delaminated (up to a certain %) inject the foam as a temporary fix until the new SMC can be obtained
C. Confirm it's delaminated beyonf GM specs and order a new SMC roof - that's what happened to me and what my dealer did.
Did the dealer confirm delamination, that the key right now?
Tom
I still don't understand why the dealer would refuse to:
A. Inspect your top for signes of delamination IAW the latest Customer Satisfaction Program 05112D - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1481681
B. If delaminated (up to a certain %) inject the foam as a temporary fix until the new SMC can be obtained
C. Confirm it's delaminated beyonf GM specs and order a new SMC roof - that's what happened to me and what my dealer did.
Did the dealer confirm delamination, that the key right now?
Tom
So far, I haven't noticed any problem with mine, but that may be because the car is garaged at home and at work, so it doesn't spend that much time out in the direct sun & heat. It still just doesn't make much sense to me why certain blocks of VINs within a number range, would not be included, if it was a process/material problem and if they were all made by the same supplier.
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From: Swansea IL
Originally Posted by SDCEB
So far, I haven't noticed any problem with mine, but that may be because the car is garaged at home and at work, so it doesn't spend that much time out in the direct sun & heat. It still just doesn't make much sense to me why certain blocks of VINs within a number range, would not be included, if it was a process/material problem and if they were all made by the same supplier.
A. Park the car out in the sun to help expedite a failure. That's what I did.
B. Buy/use a lexan top until the new RECALL is announced or
C. Keep driving with the solid panel and pray it doesn't come loose.
Good luck
Tom
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by drdee
it seems like GM is waiting for a major problem....like a class action suit or some motorist or cycle injury with a good personal injury lawyer.
Most likely the worst potential for injury is already over, and we are on the downslope of the bell-shaped curve of delamination numbers.
But I wouldn't want to be GM's liability insurer quite yet!
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From: Hermitage Tennessee
I went by my dealer yesterday to inquire about the roof recall since mine falls in the VIN range. I've had no probelms out of mine but it sits in the garage 99% of the time. I was told to bring it in if I have any problems but it would be in my best interest to wait until I receive an official recall notice to insure that perhaps I may get the new SMC roof. I was given a print out of the official bulletin that states: THIS PROGRAM IS IN EFFECT UNTIL MARCH 31, 2007.
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by 06C6VOL
I was given a print out of the official bulletin that states: THIS PROGRAM IS IN EFFECT UNTIL MARCH 31, 2007.
But that was before the major hit of delaminations when the weather warmed in May, and it became obvious that way too many tops were failing, and that even the foam repair was not holding. I'm sure that there will be another updated and more universally inclusive recall coming out.