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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Hello, I currently own a 2005 C6, Z51 6-speed. I've talked to other Corvette owners and nobody has experienced the same issue I have.
The issue occurs when I rev the car up to (around) 3,500 rpms. The clutch is then released and the car shoots off the line. The only problem is that when I release the clutch, often times it will "stick" to the floor but will still accelerate and I have to slow down to allow the clutch to release. Additionally, this occurred in the Competition setting, which may be interfering to prevent wheelspin in this way. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks! I have a video of this as well, not sure how to post it.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Hello, I currently own a 2005 C6, Z51 6-speed. I've talked to other Corvette owners and nobody has experienced the same issue I have.
The issue occurs when I rev the car up to (around) 3,500 rpms. The clutch is then released and the car shoots off the line. The only problem is that when I release the clutch, often times it will "stick" to the floor but will still accelerate and I have to slow down to allow the clutch to release. Additionally, this occurred in the Competition setting, which may be interfering to prevent wheelspin in this way. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks! I have a video of this as well, not sure how to post it.
http://corvetteactioncenter.com/kb/q....php?qstId=562
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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If you are dumping the clutch at 3500 it won't be long before you'll need parts..........
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Take it in for the service bulletin that DSOM Z51 linked to.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
I don't abuse the car in this way all the time, it is only every once in a while that I do drop the clutch.
Guess I'll have to get this checked out, thanks again.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Default swap out the clutch and trans from a new GT 500....

You'll find similar reports in the Z06 discussion area. I think it's the same clutch and what does not work well in the C6 certainly won't in the Z06 with more hp.

The clutch, IMO, is simply not up to the task at hand and should be replaced by GM with a new design. The Z06 boys talk about replacing it and changing the clutch fluid at crazy frequent intervals-all to try to keep a poor design functioning at least marginally.

Perhaps if/when the T6060 manual replaces the T56 the clutch will be improved?

BTW-your 'Z51' clutch behaves the same way my 'Corvette C6' clutch behaves. They are identical. You have a small gear difference in your trans and that's all. It is not the cause of your clutch problem.

IMO all. No car is perfect. The clutch is a weak point of the C6 from my own experience and experience of others. Of course, now get ready for the posts from people who have no problem with theirs.....lucky them but if a poorly designed part sometimes works as it should it does not prove all will....
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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You'll find similar reports in the Z06 discussion area. I think it's the same clutch and what does not work well in the C6 certainly won't in the Z06 with more hp.
First off its not the same clutch. The clamping force of the LS7 pressure plate is higher.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1488627

Originally Posted by OregonC6
The clutch, IMO, is simply not up to the task at hand and should be replaced by GM with a new design. The Z06 boys talk about replacing it and changing the clutch fluid at crazy frequent intervals-all to try to keep a poor design functioning at least marginally. Perhaps if/when the T6060 manual replaces the T56 the clutch will be improved?
What has this to do with the original poster's current problem?


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BTW-your 'Z51' clutch behaves the same way my 'Corvette C6' clutch behaves. They are identical. You have a small gear difference in your trans and that's all. It is not the cause of your clutch problem.
Un f*****g believable. Then why bring it up? No technical advice to help this guy with his problem whatsoever. Just more of your Z51 envy.

Originally Posted by OregonC6
IMO all. No car is perfect. The clutch is a weak point of the C6 from my own experience and experience of others. Of course, now get ready for the posts from people who have no problem with theirs.....lucky them but if a poorly designed part sometimes works as it should it does not prove all will....
To the original poster, use the bulletin that I posted to get your problem resolved. There are people here who actually want to help you. Identify those and you will do a lot better for yourself. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1185499

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The TSB says to replace the clutch if built prior to the following date code :4M13A/B/C

Anyone know how to decipher the date code into English?
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OregonC6

BTW-your 'Z51' clutch behaves the same way my 'Corvette C6' clutch behaves. They are identical. You have a small gear difference in your trans and that's all. It is not the cause of your clutch problem.
This guy should be banned from CF. He is not capable of having a post without bringing up his stupid Z51 rant. It's beyond dumb at this point.
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Originally Posted by c36wfl
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
I don't abuse the car in this way all the time, it is only every once in a while that I do drop the clutch.
Guess I'll have to get this checked out, thanks again.
2 things that you can do on your own that may help or eliminate the problem. These have worked for me and I've experienced no clutch sticking in 2 years now.

Change out your clutch fluid. For $4 worth of DOT4 clutch/brake fluid (enough for many fluid changes), it's a less than 10 minute job to replace the reservoir fluid. Do a search for forum member 'Ranger' for more details.

Secondly anything to reduce clutch throw will help. I used this 50 cent window track lock:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/phot...00/ppuser/6747

It clamps onto the clutch arm, shortens the distance you can push in the clutch, and effectively reduces clutch throw.

I was not thrilled with bringing my car into the dealer, as they have never done clutch work on a C6.
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Originally Posted by 06.Z51.MontRed.Vert
This guy should be banned from CF. He is not capable of having a post without bringing up his stupid Z51 rant. It's beyond dumb at this point.
Enough is enough.
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
The TSB says to replace the clutch if built prior to the following date code :4M13A/B/C

Anyone know how to decipher the date code into English?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...utch+date+code

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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
The TSB says to replace the clutch if built prior to the following date code :4M13A/B/C

Anyone know how to decipher the date code into English?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1084747

The date code is located on the pressure plate cover as shown above.
Replace the clutch kit (see part list below) if the date code on the pressure plate is PRIOR to the following date code:
- 4M21A/B/C for CTS-V and SSR

- 4M13A/B/C for Corvette


The date codes are interpreted as follows:


- The first character is the year.

• 4 = 2004

• 5 = 2005

- The second character is the build month.
Important: The letter J is not used in the month code.



• January = A

• February = B

• March = C

• April = D

• May = E

• June = F

• July = G

• August = H

• September = I

• October = K

• November = L

• December =M

- The third character is the day of the month.

- Important: It is possible that the fourth digit, the shift code, may not be present on the date code. The shift code does not pay a critical part in determining a suspect clutch kit.


The fourth, and final, character is the shift code = A/B/C.

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12581713
Plate Asm, CLU Press & DRVN (W/CVR)

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Plate Asm, CLU Press & DRVN (W/CVR)

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Originally Posted by 06.Z51.MontRed.Vert
This guy should be banned from CF. He is not capable of having a post without bringing up his stupid Z51 rant. It's beyond dumb at this point.
LOL..
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Enough is enough.
I am new to this forum and cannot agree more with your reaction to this guy's comments. His Z51 rant prompted me to look back at my original post and find at what point I mentioned the Z51 clutch somehow being superior to that of the "normal" C6. Couldn't find that point.

To everyone else, Thanks. You have been very helpful in giving me an explaination regarding this small problem.
I guess my only other question is that will failure to repair or replace these components cause problems in the future?
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Originally Posted by c36wfl
I am new to this forum and cannot agree more with your reaction to this guy's comments. His Z51 rant prompted me to look back at my original post and find at what point I mentioned the Z51 clutch somehow being superior to that of the "normal" C6. Couldn't find that point.
The reason why you couldn't find it is because its not in there. But in any event, I am glad that we were able to help you.

Originally Posted by c36wfl
To everyone else, Thanks. You have been very helpful in giving me an explaination regarding this small problem.
I guess my only other question is that will failure to repair or replace these components cause problems in the future?
I am sure that I speak for all here who are technically knowledgable, know these cars, and made a sincere attempt at helping you with your problem when I say: You're welcome.
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Originally Posted by c36wfl
To everyone else, Thanks. You have been very helpful in giving me an explaination regarding this small problem.
I guess my only other question is that will failure to repair or replace these components cause problems in the future?
I would ask forum member Ranger that question.
But I never replaced mine, and all is well 2 years later.
I just might have it done before my warranty expires...
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LOL..

He gets them so jacked up!
I think he adds alot of humor to the same old threads.
Lighten up peeps!

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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
The reason why you couldn't find it is because its not in there. But in any event, I am glad that we were able to help you.

I am sure that I speak for all here who are technically knowledgable, know these cars, and made a sincere attempt at helping you with your problem when I say: You're welcome.
You're a class act DSOM Z51. It's a long way off but Im buying you the cold ones at Carlisle.
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Originally Posted by Craigster05
You're a class act DSOM Z51. It's a long way off but Im buying you the cold ones at Carlisle.
Thanks

"I am new to this forum and cannot agree more with your reaction to this guy's comments. His Z51 rant prompted me to look back at my original post and find at what point I mentioned the Z51 clutch somehow being superior to that of the "normal" C6. Couldn't find that point.

To everyone else, Thanks. You have been very helpful in giving me an explaination regarding this small problem."


Knowing that we helped a fellow forum member who is relatively new here is indeed something to get "jacked up" about.
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