Top-Tier Fuel: Chevron = BP??
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Top-Tier Fuel: Chevron = BP??
From the official list of top-tier gasolines, I am surprised that BP is not on the list. Chevron is on the list. In years past, Chevron was part of Standard Oil before it was split-up. So that there was Standard Oil of California, Standard Oil of Indiana, SOHIO, AMOCO, Chevron, etc.
So, my question is does BP = Chevron on the top-tier gasoline list? Your years my top picks for fuel were BP/Standard/SOHIO or Shell. AMOCO, Standard or SOHIO always meant good gasoline. With higher prices my brand loyalty has been on vacation. If price is close, I go with BP or Shell. But if it is a price difference of .06, .12 or .25/gal: I go for best price from mystery oil company. BP or Shell goes in every 4th fill-up.
Gburg
So, my question is does BP = Chevron on the top-tier gasoline list? Your years my top picks for fuel were BP/Standard/SOHIO or Shell. AMOCO, Standard or SOHIO always meant good gasoline. With higher prices my brand loyalty has been on vacation. If price is close, I go with BP or Shell. But if it is a price difference of .06, .12 or .25/gal: I go for best price from mystery oil company. BP or Shell goes in every 4th fill-up.
Gburg
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Depending on your region of the country ... gas is all the same with different additives ... in some places like Ohio, BP is the only supplier ... so even at a Shell your base gas is the same.
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Chevron is top tier in Cal. Both Nor and Southern. I have a friend who in Nor Cal who owns a boatyard and systematically tweaks boats, which generally run under much harder operating conditions than most vettes due to rpm band and prop loading. 2% + or - increase in fuel mileage, fewer pinging especially when compared to shell particularly when timing is tweaked for performance. These are carbed comparison's..but my guess is it would be better than most if not all other in fuel injected vehicles as well...
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Originally Posted by easyrider13
...but it is the additive package that distinguishes the top tier gasolines.
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It seems like there are so many different takes on gasoline brands. A recent article on AOL suggested that the additives in the top tier gasolines have been so reduced that there is no real difference between Chevron (for example) and Arco. Nonetheless, I still fill up at Chevron. I obviously pay a little more, but I have peace of mind that I'm using what the Corvette engineers recommend.
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last i knew bp was not listed as a top-tier simply because not all grades meet the requirement. their premium is good, the lower grades haven't meet or exceeded the requirements to be considered top tier. only companies where all three grades meet the requirements are considered top tier.
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BP bought Amoco, so they are the same. Shell briefly was a joint venture with Texaco refining in the US, but then Chevron bought all of Texaco. So now, Chevron and Texaco are the same. There is no longer any relationship between Shell and Texaco.
Top tier refers to the additive package, and it is significant. As far as the old refrain "it all comes out of the same pipe", I've posted on that many times. There are some areas where it's true, but mostly it's not. Some of those old posts may still be on the Forum using search.
Top tier refers to the additive package, and it is significant. As far as the old refrain "it all comes out of the same pipe", I've posted on that many times. There are some areas where it's true, but mostly it's not. Some of those old posts may still be on the Forum using search.
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Here is the list right from the toptiergas.com site. BP is not on it. The additives make a huge difference. Around here in MI, I've seen tons of cars with fuel system problems - mostly clogged injectors when they use the el cheapo Kroger or Costco gas. And everyone in line there to save a couple pennies will say the same thing - it all comes from the same pipeline. Doesn't matter, it's the end product that makes the difference. Like the difference between toothpaste with or without flouride, the base paste may be the same - but you want the one with the good stuff added.
I've used Shell for years, never a single problem. I know several people that run into injector clogging problems about once a year - and they use Kroger. There is a difference.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Retailers
Gasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.
Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada
Texaco
Petro-Canada
I've used Shell for years, never a single problem. I know several people that run into injector clogging problems about once a year - and they use Kroger. There is a difference.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Retailers
Gasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.
Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada
Texaco
Petro-Canada
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Thanks for the info ... I know where you are coming from ... my father owns a few gas stations, and I have taken a lot of time to learn the differences ... but basically there are 3 levels:
Top Tier: High Level of Detergents (your List)
Mid Tier: Some Detergents (Sunoco, BP)
Low Tier: No Detergents (Costco, GetGo, Sam's Club)
Anything with Detergents is better ...
Top Tier: High Level of Detergents (your List)
Mid Tier: Some Detergents (Sunoco, BP)
Low Tier: No Detergents (Costco, GetGo, Sam's Club)
Anything with Detergents is better ...
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Good topic.
My C6 Z06 seems to like both Quik-Trip and Chevron gas. However, it seems to feel a little better with the QT brand on board.
My 26K original miles Grand National likes the Chevron brand. So what gives? Who knows...my butt-dyno-meter has not failed me yet!
Thanks,
Carlos
My C6 Z06 seems to like both Quik-Trip and Chevron gas. However, it seems to feel a little better with the QT brand on board.
My 26K original miles Grand National likes the Chevron brand. So what gives? Who knows...my butt-dyno-meter has not failed me yet!
Thanks,
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Myhardtop
Good topic.
My C6 Z06 seems to like both Quik-Trip and Chevron gas. However, it seems to feel a little better with the QT brand on board.
My 26K original miles Grand National likes the Chevron brand. So what gives? Who knows...my butt-dyno-meter has not failed me yet!
Thanks,
Carlos
My C6 Z06 seems to like both Quik-Trip and Chevron gas. However, it seems to feel a little better with the QT brand on board.
My 26K original miles Grand National likes the Chevron brand. So what gives? Who knows...my butt-dyno-meter has not failed me yet!
Thanks,
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Michrider
Here is the list right from the toptiergas.com site. BP is not on it. The additives make a huge difference. Around here in MI, I've seen tons of cars with fuel system problems - mostly clogged injectors when they use the el cheapo Kroger or Costco gas. And everyone in line there to save a couple pennies will say the same thing - it all comes from the same pipeline. Doesn't matter, it's the end product that makes the difference. Like the difference between toothpaste with or without flouride, the base paste may be the same - but you want the one with the good stuff added.
I've used Shell for years, never a single problem. I know several people that run into injector clogging problems about once a year - and they use Kroger. There is a difference.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Retailers
Gasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.
Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada
Texaco
Petro-Canada
I've used Shell for years, never a single problem. I know several people that run into injector clogging problems about once a year - and they use Kroger. There is a difference.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Retailers
Gasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.
Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada
Texaco
Petro-Canada
Gburg
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Originally Posted by Gburg
From the official list of top-tier gasolines, I am surprised that BP is not on the list. Chevron is on the list. In years past, Chevron was part of Standard Oil before it was split-up. So that there was Standard Oil of California, Standard Oil of Indiana, SOHIO, AMOCO, Chevron, etc.
So, my question is does BP = Chevron on the top-tier gasoline list? Your years my top picks for fuel were BP/Standard/SOHIO or Shell. AMOCO, Standard or SOHIO always meant good gasoline. With higher prices my brand loyalty has been on vacation. If price is close, I go with BP or Shell. But if it is a price difference of .06, .12 or .25/gal: I go for best price from mystery oil company. BP or Shell goes in every 4th fill-up.
Gburg
So, my question is does BP = Chevron on the top-tier gasoline list? Your years my top picks for fuel were BP/Standard/SOHIO or Shell. AMOCO, Standard or SOHIO always meant good gasoline. With higher prices my brand loyalty has been on vacation. If price is close, I go with BP or Shell. But if it is a price difference of .06, .12 or .25/gal: I go for best price from mystery oil company. BP or Shell goes in every 4th fill-up.
Gburg
The price is never an issue with me. If the station up the street has gas 5 cents cheaper and I put in 15 gallons of BP it cost me 75 cents more. Not an issue.
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I'm suprised that Sunoco is only mid tier because it is the only one that offers 94 octane. That is what I have been using since new. I know Petro-Canada only offers 91 octane. SHould I start using Shell 93?