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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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I would really like to get some feed back from you guys about my 06 black z51,5000 miles perfect condition,covertable, 3lt every option that a vette could have is in mine.
What would the dealer give me in a trade in?
Honestly I am not happy with this car any longer due to the poor quality and workmanship that was put into this car!
The car is going in on Monday for the rear end issue that 90% of the vettes out there came with.
It just feels to delicate and cheap. Sorry these cars are not worth half of what we pay.
Too many issues, and you all are aware very well what I am talking about here.
Great looks are not enough,I want reliability.
I am not sure of what I am getting ,but rest asured not a GM!
I had issues with a 99 trans am and told myself the same sh** back then.
I just had to have this vette,and now here I am again in the same situation.
What got to me today?
The wipers went out again for the second time too. So I am driving down the road with the wipers stuck in the middle of the glass.
I leave work and I hear this awful sound coming from the rear end( the grinding sound) the dash board squeekie sound that everyone complains about too!
I had enough
Can anyone tell me how much money I can expect in a trade in?
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Sad to hear your discontent. I still feel there's no other car that compares to a vette. Good luck with trading yours.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nuvetteowner
I would really like to get some feed back from you guys about my 06 black z51,5000 miles perfect condition,covertable, 3lt every option that a vette could have is in mine.
What would the dealer give me in a trade in?
Honestly I am not happy with this car any longer due to the poor quality and workmanship that was put into this car!
The car is going in on Monday for the rear end issue that 90% of the vettes out there came with.
It just feels to delicate and cheap. Sorry these cars are not worth half of what we pay.
Too many issues, and you all are aware very well what I am talking about here.
Great looks are not enough,I want reliability.
I am not sure of what I am getting ,but rest asured not a GM!
I had issues with a 99 trans am and told myself the same sh** back then.
I just had to have this vette,and now here I am again in the same situation.
What got to me today?
The wipers went out again for the second time too. So I am driving down the road with the wipers stuck in the middle of the glass.
I leave work and I hear this awful sound coming from the rear end( the grinding sound) the dash board squeekie sound that everyone complains about too!
I had enough
Can anyone tell me how much money I can expect in a trade in?

Full option convertible should have an mrsp of 65K. My guess, if you get a dealer who really wants it, I would guess 44-46K..

There is a dealer on this forum that advertised 12k off of brand new 2006 convertibles.

best of luck
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettestylexx
Sad to hear your discontent. I still feel there's no other car that compares to a vette. Good luck with trading yours.
Sorry to hear about your problems, and best of luck to you in on trading/selling yours
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I'd go for a buy back. You have a lemon here. Yours is not a typical Corvette.

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I'd go for a buy back. You have a lemon here. Yours is not a typical Corvette.

Tom
The problems I have are what most members here have with their car.
I am beside myself with this.
Angry with GM, and mad at myself for jumping into this so fast without waiting.
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My guess is $47 to $48 thousand. The other numbers posted are all very close so you've probably got the range. I have a MR c6 like yours except no Onstar. With 6500 mi. I haven't been back to the dealer. Sorry about yours.
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Originally Posted by nuvetteowner
The problems I have are what most members here have with their car.
I am beside myself with this.
Angry with GM, and mad at myself for jumping into this so fast without waiting.
you may experience "typical" problems but i really don't think that "most members here" have problems with their cars. sorry you're having problems. these ARE great cars. IMHO.
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44...don't be in too big of a hurry with your next purchase. I had a new Porsche a few years back--lots of money...lots of problems. No matter the car or costs--there simply are no guarantees.
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Originally Posted by nuvetteowner
perfect condition The car is going in on Monday for the rear end issue The wipers went out again for the second time too. awful sound coming from the rear end( the grinding sound) the dash board squeekie sound that everyone complains about too!
If any dealer were to read this post, I don't think he'd buy your car under any circumstances. Perfect condition?
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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44...don't be in too big of a hurry with your next purchase. I had a new Porsche a few years back--lots of money...lots of problems. No matter the car or costs--there simply are no guarantees.
What gets to me most of all is why cant these problems be corrected the first visit?
Also years of the same rear end issues too.
Too many corners were cut building these machines.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Mine has been near perfect thus far, and for that matter, so was my C5
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Originally Posted by nuvetteowner
What gets to me most of all is why cant these problems be corrected the first visit?
Also years of the same rear end issues too.
Too many corners were cut building these machines.
I know...it sucks. Best of luck
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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What you need to do, IMO, is pound the car. I mean drive it until everything that is going to break or malfunction does so. Get it all fixed under warranty. In a couple of years you should have a pretty good reliable car.

My opinion is that the C6 probably costs half or less of the msrp to manufacture. The other half is margin for GM and the dealers. The manufacturing cost half itself is probably half high union wages and benefits so not a lot is left over for materials.

So perhaps, I say perhaps, one quarter of the msrp of the C6 is in actual cost of physical parts. Is it any wonder, if this is true, that problems arise with quality and longevity?

IMO the margins are too high and the wages and benefits are way too high.....little is left for the actual car. Of course the quality is low. GM is milking the cash cow called the Corvette.

just my opinions
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JimTN
If any dealer were to read this post, I don't think he'd buy your car under any circumstances. Perfect condition?
They wont know it is me,how can they?
I am not the only one with these defects being posted.
Besides I won't be trading anytime soon,too much of a loss, I don't dislike the car that much to lose thousands.
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I have to agree with the original post to some degree. There are plenty of $50-60K priced cars that have a much higher level of quality/fit/finish. I mean, you get a lot of performance for the buck, but small block OHV pushrod technology is really not new. The LS2 is basically a re-hash/hybrid bored out LS1-LS6. Not much $$$$ into R&D there. Same goes for the tranny. The drivetrain is basically re-worked parts bin stuff from the C5, but it works. My only real gripe is that the leather on the seats flat out sucks. If the leather were as high grain and durable as a Porsche or BMW, the Vette would be close to dang near perfect. Something like this is easily remedied. GM, are you listening?

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What you need to do, IMO, is pound the car. I mean drive it until everything that is going to break or malfunction does so. Get it all fixed under warranty. In a couple of years you should have a pretty good reliable car.

My opinion is that the C6 probably costs half or less of the msrp to manufacture. The other half is margin for GM and the dealers. The manufacturing cost half itself is probably half high union wages and benefits so not a lot is left over for materials.

So perhaps, I say perhaps, one quarter of the msrp of the C6 is in actual cost of physical parts. Is it any wonder, if this is true, that problems arise with quality and longevity?

IMO the margins are too high and the wages and benefits are way too high.....little is left for the actual car. Of course the quality is low. GM is milking the cash cow called the Corvette.

just my opinions
It would be interesting to know your age (group) as your comments are rather pointed. I just traded in my 2005 (first vette) and it had some problems.. what did I trade it for? a 2007 vette changing to the 6 speed paddle shift. I'm sure I am much older than you and I have had more cars (my wife says over fifity in close to the same number of years driving) all or most have had problems some more and some less. The Corvette, yes the interior could be better, but it is one heck of a vehicle for the price. Good looking comfortable and great performance. Yes, adding better quality interior a new generation engine etc would be nice but the resulting price would be much more. I would also agree with you about the GM labor costs, they are trying to deal with that but it does exist. Bottom line is I'm satisfied with the cost and the value received... otherwise why would I order another
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Originally Posted by nuvetteowner
I would really like to get some feed back from you guys about my 06 black z51,5000 miles perfect condition,covertable, 3lt every option that a vette could have is in mine.
What would the dealer give me in a trade in?
Honestly I am not happy with this car any longer due to the poor quality and workmanship that was put into this car!
The car is going in on Monday for the rear end issue that 90% of the vettes out there came with.
It just feels to delicate and cheap. Sorry these cars are not worth half of what we pay.
Too many issues, and you all are aware very well what I am talking about here.
Great looks are not enough,I want reliability.
I am not sure of what I am getting ,but rest asured not a GM!
I had issues with a 99 trans am and told myself the same sh** back then.
I just had to have this vette,and now here I am again in the same situation.
What got to me today?
The wipers went out again for the second time too. So I am driving down the road with the wipers stuck in the middle of the glass.
I leave work and I hear this awful sound coming from the rear end( the grinding sound) the dash board squeekie sound that everyone complains about too!
I had enough
Can anyone tell me how much money I can expect in a trade in?
Boy, I hate to see a guy unhappy and especially at Christmas time. If you really need to get rid of that car I will give your $5000.00 cash and take over the problems...........Seriously, that is a shame. Why not call a GM zone manager and try again or try a smaller dealership. Isn't there one up at Tarpon Springs or the guys at Venice. I have heard good things about them. Ken at VETTENET might be able to help also, he is a forum charter member.

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I hate to put it this way, but some people really think the Corvette is on some other level in terms of refinement and engineering compared to other GM cars. The fact of the matter is, GM COULD give the Corvette Porsche quality leather, Lexus level build quality, ect, but they would NOT be able to do it at the price point they're trying to maintain. Guys and gals, this car is not a Porsche or a Lexus, it is a CHEVROLET, and as such, it has many parts bin aspects to consider. The interior materials and fit will not be substantially different than what you'd find in an Impala or Suburban. That just needs to be accepted.

Now then, that said, they should not be putting ANY car out, at ANY price that can't keep it's roof on, has unsolved DBS and column lock issues, has wipers fail mid cycle, rear end leaks/noises, ect. I guess we've been blessed in the sense that in the last 15 years, we've had, 2 Camaros, a Cavalier, a Buick, a CTS, a C5, a Firebird Formula, a Blazer, and an '06 Impala SS. Of all those, the biggest (and I think ONLY) issue was 2 oil leaks, 1 on the Blazer, and 1 on the CTS w/ the 3.6 VVT engine, both fixed correctly under warranty w/ no further issues. I can only hope my luck will continue w/ my C6.

And as far as the price goes....check out loaded Suburbans, Cadillacs, and Buicks these days, 50-60k isn't THAT expensive anymore, as sad as that sounds. Point is, these quality deficiencies are unfortunate for a car at any price, not just cars costing 60k+.

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