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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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My 05 corvette has a badly flawed headlight on the driver side (passenger side just fine). It never goes away. I have been trying to get GM to replace it for the past two years but they refuse. GM said they all look this way. I don’t understand that comment as my passenger side headlight cover is fine. A $55,000 car and I can even get a clean headlight cover. It looks like a chemical spill or fog and spider veins on the inside surface of the cover. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else have a solution for me other than replace the entire assembly for $1,000 (GM said this was the only solution) – can it be taken off and cleaned? I have been really dissatisfied with the Quality Control on this car!! The corvette is a nice sports car. Too bad GM built it as the Quality Control is just not there. I have pictures to show how really bad this is.

Zone rep and dealer both saw the car and are of no help since it did not affect the actual function of the headlight - They too think they should look this way. Even wrote the President of Chevrolete North American Parts and Service and sent pictures and they say the car should look this way too. Do you agree. I think the headlights are the face of the car and mine appears to have a cataract!




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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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My 05 corvette has a badly flawed headlight on the driver side. I have been trying to get GM to replace it for the past two years but they refuse. GM said they all look this way. I don’t understand that comment as my passenger side headlight cover is fine. A $55,000 car and I can even get a clean headlight cover. It looks like a fog and spider veins on the inside surface of the cover. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else have a solution for me other than replace the entire assembly for $1,000 (GM said this was the only solution) – can it be taken off and cleaned? I have been really dissatisfied with the Quality Control on this car!! The corvette is a nice sports car. Too bad GM built it as the Quality Control is just not there. I have pictures to show how really bad this is - would love to share them - how do I post them here?
Hey G_vette, can you post a picture of the headlight in question? EDIT: Oops, missed that point. It's been a while since I posted a pic, not sure I can help you at the moment.

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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... I have pictures to show how really bad this is - would love to share them - how do I post them here? ...
You have to get your photos hosted on some other site. A lot of forum members use Photobucket. You can get an account for free.

These two threads should help you:

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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My 05 corvette has a badly flawed headlight on the driver side. I have been trying to get GM to replace it for the past two years but they refuse. GM said they all look this way. I don’t understand that comment as my passenger side headlight cover is fine. A $55,000 car and I can even get a clean headlight cover. It looks like a fog and spider veins on the inside surface of the cover. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else have a solution for me other than replace the entire assembly for $1,000 (GM said this was the only solution) – can it be taken off and cleaned? I have been really dissatisfied with the Quality Control on this car!! The corvette is a nice sports car. Too bad GM built it as the Quality Control is just not there. I have pictures to show how really bad this is - would love to share them - how do I post them here?
Remove headlight assembly from car, pop in a 325 degree oven for 20 minutes, carefully pry off transparent cover. The heat softens the glue so it'll come apart easily. Now go to your favorite motorcycle shop and get some visor polish. Polish out the flaws in the transparent cover. Now glue it back together and reinstall in the car.

This is not a job for the faint of heart, screw it up and you're out a $840 headlight assembly.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Can we have someone make the replacement headlight corver let say for $200 a piece ?
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
Remove headlight assembly from car, pop in a 325 degree oven for 20 minutes, ...
Yes, I think I saw that on the Food Network, 30 Minute Meals with Rachel Ray. Rachel said not to over bake.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Yikes! Next you will tell me I need a Gourmet Cooking Class to go along with auto mechanics and body shop class!
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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g_vett,

At one time, did you have a protective film installed on the headlamp lens or have you applied any chemicals to the lens?

Or, maybe the following wil help:

The headlamps feature a clear polycarbonate lenses. The light fog or cloudiness is caused by out gassing and is a normal characteristic of the vehicle. The headlamps are also vented, thus some condensation/moisture may be seen when humidity is high or there is a change in temperature. The moisture should burn off after one hour of headlamps being turned on.
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Maybe since they are all that way then trade me with that one in the showroom!!! Dude that is BS
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Originally Posted by g_vett
My 05 corvette has a badly flawed headlight on the driver side. I have been trying to get GM to replace it for the past two years but they refuse.
Are you dealing with the zone rep? This does seem like horse****, they should replace it.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Are you dealing with the zone rep? This does seem like horse****, they should replace it.
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try a different dealer
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Thats . Sorry for the GM giving you the run around.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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No. It has been there since the car was new. Live in a dessert area so it is not humidity. This conditions has never changed. Looks like a chemical spill on the inside of the cover.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
Remove headlight assembly from car, pop in a 325 degree oven for 20 minutes, carefully pry off transparent cover. The heat softens the glue so it'll come apart easily. Now go to your favorite motorcycle shop and get some visor polish. Polish out the flaws in the transparent cover. Now glue it back together and reinstall in the car.

This is not a job for the faint of heart, screw it up and you're out a $840 headlight assembly.
I've tried it. Your right it's not for the faint of heart. I decided to experiment since mine was broken anyway....I had a tough time and ended up damaging the cover. The glue softened in some areas and not in others and look carefully because the clear cover is also held on to the base with fasteners ( I think on the bottom but check carefully). Chevy really should pick that up under warrantee. Looks like moisture got in. I think I read in the manual somewhere they talk about the possibility of lamp cover fogging on damp days but with the heat of the lamps its temporary. But it looks like in your case it's bad!

Good luck!
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BobST1100
I've tried it. Your right it's not for the faint of heart. I decided to experiment since mine was broken anyway....I had a tough time and ended up damaging the cover. The glue softened in some areas and not in others and look carefully because the clear cover is also held on to the base with fasteners ( I think on the bottom but check carefully). Chevy really should pick that up under warrantee. Looks like moisture got in. I think I read in the manual somewhere they talk about the possibility of lamp cover fogging on damp days but with the heat of the lamps its temporary. But it looks like in your case it's bad!

Good luck!
It is not humidity - live in So Cal - very dry. It is a chemical stain. the stain is always there. Dealer no help. Zone rep no help - both say the car is "supposed" to look this way.
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Originally Posted by g_vett
It is not humidity - live in So Cal - very dry. It is a chemical stain. the stain is always there. Dealer no help. Zone rep no help - both say the car is "supposed" to look this way.
It is not suppose to look that way. Who are they trying to fool? No one would buy one if they all looked that way. Try a different dealer and then keep going up the chain. I bet someone from this forum might have some phone numbers for you to call. There have been some nasty dealings with dealers posted on this forum over the years. Some of the threads have high level phone numbers in them.

Somebody PM this guy with some contact information to get this fixed.

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Did the Zone Rep actually see the headlight? I can't believe that anyone in their right mind would claim that is normal. Make the Zone Rep and Dealer meet you with your car at the dealer. Make them show you every other Corvette they have and defy them to find even 1 other headlight like yours. They won't be able to. It is not normal. This should back them into a corner where they will have to admit that it is not normal and they need to replace it.
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If it's supposed to look like that as a "normal" condition, then I would imagine the other side of your car has a matching "normal" light. If they both have the identical look, then it is normal. Do they match? If not, I think they're trying to blow smoke up your donkey.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by g_vett
My 05 corvette has a badly flawed headlight on the driver side. It never goes away. I have been trying to get GM to replace it for the past two years but they refuse. GM said they all look this way. I don’t understand that comment as my passenger side headlight cover is fine. A $55,000 car and I can even get a clean headlight cover. It looks like a chemical spill or fog and spider veins on the inside surface of the cover. Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else have a solution for me other than replace the entire assembly for $1,000 (GM said this was the only solution) – can it be taken off and cleaned? I have been really dissatisfied with the Quality Control on this car!! The corvette is a nice sports car. Too bad GM built it as the Quality Control is just not there. I have pictures to show how really bad this is.

Zone rep and dealer of no help - They too think they should look this way. Even wrote the President of Chevrolete North American Parts and Service and they say the car should look this way too. Do you agree. I think the headlights are the face of the car and mine appears to have a cataract!
Hey g_vette, of course you are correct, that doesn't look right in anyway/shape or form. There must be a way to escalate past the zone rep, that is total

I know you said this is only 1 headlamp, they won't concede the other headlight looks different? BTW, did it look like that when you took possession of the car, or did it happened after?

If you decide to take shopdog's advice and try the whole oven thing, let me know. I have read about that procedure several times, but there's a few questions about the procedure, such as:

- when the headlight comes apart, what happens to the sealing material?
- it is simple RTV silcone? Does it stick on the cover, does it stick to the headlight housing, does it come lose from both pieces, or does it tend tear apart?
- if it does tear apart, what do you use to reseal the headlight assembly?

Seems like a lot people have referred to this "325 degree oven" procedure, but I don't know how many of them have actually tried it, or whether it's just been something perpetuated over time. I'd rather not try something like that w/o experience or detailed instructions.

Good luck... I'm still looking for someone with experience to do this as well.

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