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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Another frivolous class-action lawsuit. Just a lawyer trying to "hit it big".
You broke the code!
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
Yep. There ought to be a way to strike back against such frivolous suits. We need real tort reform. The lawyers hawking these class action suits should be required to pay all expenses of the companies defending against them, and further be assessed triple the damages they were suing for when the suit is judged to be frivolous. Additionally, they should be disbarred if they are repeat offenders.
But with the percentage of Congress that is made up of attorneys, (such as ambulance-chaser Edwards) we'll never see meaningful tort reform
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Ok gentleman...

We need real tort reform
Lets hear some ideas.

Lawyers are supposed to act as advocates for their clients, but they are also officers of the court. They should be held to account when they accept and file these frivolous suits
You are correct shopdog. There are Court Rules which address this issue.


I had to deal with lawyers twisting, distorting and lying for 20 years as a LEO....
cthusker, please do not take this the wrong way. In no way am I questioning YOUR integrity. But was this in municipal court? I ask because in that realm I've seen LEO's distort the truth just as well as the defendants.


Not that insurance companies would ever pass-along any of the savings to us but this would truly eliminate 99% of these types of lawsuits. Insurance companies too often agree to settle simply because it's cheaper than fighting an action in Court. People would not be so quick to file a suit (only hoping for a quick settlement) knowing that if they lose....they pay.
Many insurance companies have taken a "no pay" stance....meaning the offer is zero dollars.

As far as personal injury cases go (slip and falls, auto accidents and the like) remember....PI attorneys take those cases on a contingent fee basis. They lay out many of the costs associated with bringing a suit. So, in a sense if the attorney loses he/she pays.


This thread is a perfect example of one of the many problems with our judicial system. Just look at how many of you are jaded and disgusted with the system. There are hundreds of thousands of people just like you. The problem with that is you are all potential jurors and in that capacity you are supposed to be impartial. Given your views how can any of you be impartial and decide a case on the merits/evidence before you?

You can preach about tort reform all you want but the bottom line is that most of you have turned a blind eye to the fact that insurance companies are just raking the cash in. You can pass all the tort deform you want and you will never see any of that money returned to you.

I eagerly await the responses calling me a scumbag so please, continue to generalize and show your ignorance by judging an entire profession based on limited experience.

I’ll be modifying my Corvette if I’m needed…it has to be plenty fast to keep up with those ambulances on city streets.

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by outnumbered


If I had noticed it was from the NY Times, I wouldn't even have read the rubbish.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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I am an attorney, and I have to agree that many cases, including a majority of the "class action" variety, are nothing more than a "get rich quick" scam by some (read: some) attorneys. But, there is more to the story than just a bunch of greedy lawyers.

What about insurance companies? They deliberately screw over their insureds every chance they get. If there's a way to say a claim fits into an exemption, that's what will happen. Anyone heard of Hurricane Katrina?

What about the big corporations? Same thing - they'd screw over their own parents if they thought it would increase shareholder return by even a penny. Anyone heard of the Exxon Valdez case? More than a decade has gone by without any significant restitution paid out despite the fact that the errors there are as plain as day.

What about the medical profession? Doctors hiding behind each other's lab coats to cover up gross errors in judgment every day. "They're only human," many will say. Well, so are attorneys, but everyone seems happy to jump all over them.

What about service employees? Anyone have a tale of poor/incompetent service lately? How many posts are in this forum about mechanics that cannot seem to figure out the business end of a wrench?

What about LEO's? I've seen plenty of cops, district attorneys, and judges do things that are silly, stupid, illegal, unconstitutional, and everything else in between. Where's the outrage over their behavior? Everyone is always so sure the "perp" being beaten by the cop deserved it, right? Yeah, right.

What about government employees? The level of incompetence seen at any DMV ought to cause anyone with half a brain to shudder.

There is PLENTY of blame to go around here, folks. You are welcome to lawyer-bash all you like, but the fact remains that EVERY profession, and EVERY person, is capable of being just as underhanded, greedy, and unethical as your so-called "shyster." Let's keep that in mind, shall we?

Happy Vette-ing, All!

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
Not just frivolous class-action suits but even 'personal' lawsuits. We ought to do what some other countries have done....the loser pays all costs involved, including the other party's 'reasonable' attorney's fees. You would want to be pretty damn sure you had a solid case before ever filing an action.

Not that insurance companies would ever pass-along any of the savings to us but this would truly eliminate 99% of these types of lawsuits. Insurance companies too often agree to settle simply because it's cheaper than fighting an action in Court. People would not be so quick to file a suit (only hoping for a quick settlement) knowing that if they lose....they pay.
was it Rome or Athens that gave the same penalalty to the loosing lawyer as his client?

...first kill all the lawyers
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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first kill all the lawyers
Yes, only the most rational of all societies solves problems with swift violence.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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What happens when a Lawyer takes Viagra?......He Gets Taller.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Last week i bought a set of Michelins run flats to replace my oem GY`s on my Z. Discount tire explained to me the problems with fixing flats on zp tires. The michelins can be repaired only once and the puncture has to be on the flat part of the tread.If all criteria is not me they will not repair the tire. I have plugged run flats in the past with no problems but there is liability with a tire store. I opted to buy "insurance" on each tire which ran me another $250 on the sale.This entitles me to a free replacement tire if the flat cannot be fixed. I had several flats on my oem tires and just plugged them myself with no issues.

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I agree with Shopdog and Waynes posts. But I don't blame the attorneys. They are just taking every advantage of the system, and blaming them will get us nowhere. Blame the lawmakers - they are the ones who can change the system. And no, I'm not an attorney - worse - I'm in sales
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Vin, please do not post on topic...lol.

Thanks again for the pics of the tires. I went with the non-runflat Michelin Pilot Sports in a 345/30-19. I opted for the "insurance" as well. In the end they were $424.00 a tire plus $114.00 for the "insurance" on both.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by outnumbered


If I had noticed it was from the NY Times, I wouldn't even have read the rubbish.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Good deal Joey, you will love em...

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Originally Posted by Joey D
Yes, only the most rational of all societies solves problems with swift violence.
yup, justice delayed, is justice denied
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by drummingman
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MNVette
What about the medical profession? Doctors hiding behind each other's lab coats to cover up gross errors in judgment every day. "They're only human," many will say. Well, so are attorneys, but everyone seems happy to jump all over them.
In 25 of my 31 years in medicine I've sat on ad hoc committees many times to investigate questionable actions by local physicians. We pick physicians who have no direct relationship to the accused, and avoid using competing physicians on these committees. I can say without reservation that every really bad apple has been tossed out. The rotting ones are given a sensible chance with remedial action, and all but one good one, that I can recall, sent back to work. Our actions are mostly based on what is first best for the patients and our community, the Doctor comes after that.
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