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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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I just traded an 05 MN6 coupe in for an 06 A6 Vert.

I love it, though i am noticing a "lag" when shifting in Sport mode. There is particular hesitation in second.

Gone are the days of being thrown back in my seat and chirping it into 2nd.

Is this due to the A6 and/or new car warming up?

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Is this due to the difference between MN6 and A6 AUTO?

I am wondering if a Dyno tune would help "tweak" the timing enough to make it more aggressive on the low end.

I am curious of anyone elses experienc from MN6 to A6, and if my experience is normal.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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I noticed this too and it seems to be because the A6 tries to get in the highest gear as soon as possible. Add to that the active handling trying to make sure you don't do stupid stuff and it creates a pause.

I've taken to manually downshifting to 2nd or 3rd when I want to get thrown back in the seat. I seem to be better than the computer at making those downshifts smooth.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlinderman
I just traded an 05 MN6 coupe in for an 06 A6 Vert.

I love it, though i am noticing a "lag" when shifting in Sport mode. There is particular hesitation in second.

Gone are the days of being thrown back in my seat and chirping it into 2nd.

Is this due to the A6 and/or new car warming up?

OR

Is this due to the difference between MN6 and A6 AUTO?

I am wondering if a Dyno tune would help "tweak" the timing enough to make it more aggressive on the low end.

I am curious of anyone elses experienc from MN6 to A6, and if my experience is normal.
The A6 is too smart for its own good.

If you try to drive it as you would a manual, you can catch it between 'thoughts'. Never assume that the transmission knows what you want to do. If you want to accelerate hard, keep your foot down. If you want it to be in a specific gear, use the paddles to put it there. If you want to get it to automatically drop a gear or two, get on it hard. It took me a couple of weeks to fully adjust, but now it feels just as fast as my MN6 did.

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Take time to learn the quirks. I think most of this is preception, but not always for sure. In a manual you don't notice because you are busy shifting.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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The "sport" mode" is sometimes too smart for its own good. Frankly, while I know you can put in "sport" and leave it there like an automatic, I have never done so. If it's in sport, I use the paddles. That solves all problems!

Happy Vette-ing, All!
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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For best results..........

1. Place car in competitive driving mode.
2. Shift tranny into sport mode and don't touch paddles
3. Quickly mash gas peddle to floor
4. Hang on and steer
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The "sport" mode" is sometimes too smart for its own good. Frankly, while I know you can put in "sport" and leave it there like an automatic, I have never done so. If it's in sport, I use the paddles. That solves all problems!

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Actually, my obersvations were while I was using the paddle shift.

Again, as commented, it may come down to "learning" the subtle differences. I particularly like down shifting with it, as it is physically easier to do so....

Has anyone had an A6 dyno tuned? Any results?
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With the nannies turned off I can chirp the tires going into 2nd easily using the paddles.
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With the nannies turned off I can chirp the tires going into 2nd easily using the paddles.
i like to conisder myself well versed, but..."nannies"?

Do you mean the traction control?
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Funny story, while cruising last Saturday I had a nice little straight away, and thought I'd see if my new COW tune and Halltech stuff was working ok. When I punched it, the trans dropped down, and my head hit the head rest and my teeth banged together. I almost couldn't stop laughing at myself. I guess it all works.
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What all did you do?

Just a Cold air intake and a dyno tune?
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I had Chuck at COW do the mail order tune. I added the 160 thermostat, and the Halltech Stinger. And, I added the Halltech Cold Air grill in the front to help supply air to the filter.

It runs strong, but I know what you are talking about with the shifting, and the tune didn't change or make that part better (I don't know if that is different when a tuner actually has the car, and can make other adjustments). It must be because of the A6. My previous story resulted more from the drop down. I haven't experienced firm or crisp shifts with this A6, so I don't want to mislead you on the tune info. I've had other cars that seem to snap into gear, and I prefer it that way, but it doesn't happen in my C6.

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My A4 will smoke the tires off when shifting to 2nd so I would think the A6 would do the same.
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My biggest (and only) gripe about my C6 is the lag time when using the paddle shifters (I paid $1250 for that ? ) I think I might actually shift faster with a manual and I know I enjoy it more (I also have an S2000).

I was hoping it's a computer issue that could be reprogrammed but West Coast Corvette assured me it is mechanical and there's nothing can be done about it.

My choices are either learn to love it or trade it in for an M6 or Z06 but if I trade I'll probably focus on how much money I'm losing and not enjoy the new one = damned if I do; damned if I don't..

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Originally Posted by speedmd
I noticed this too and it seems to be because the A6 tries to get in the highest gear as soon as possible. Add to that the active handling trying to make sure you don't do stupid stuff and it creates a pause.

I've taken to manually downshifting to 2nd or 3rd when I want to get thrown back in the seat. I seem to be better than the computer at making those downshifts smooth.
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I had my shifts points moved up in D mode and it seems very good now. I only use S to engage the pad'ls. It isnt a great trans IMHO
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Originally Posted by twfreightman
For best results..........

1. Place car in competitive driving mode.
2. Shift tranny into sport mode and don't touch paddles
3. Quickly mash gas peddle to floor
4. Hang on and steer


I can go from a roll say 5 to 20mph then nail it and the car will go sideways. This is something i wont do if i have other cars beside me!

This is with a stock, 06 a6, no problems eating rubber with my car.
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I had my shifts points moved up in D mode and it seems very good now. I only use S to engage the pad'ls. It isnt a great trans IMHO
that's good to hear about moving the shift points...that's all it seems to be, is that the shift points are a little soft..even in auto s mode.

I like the idea of D being softer for cruising or for my wife, and would be ideal if a seperate S mode had more pop in auto or manual.

how much did your tune cost?
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As others have noted in different threads.

Many old sensations of fast cars are not as with us anymore as they used to be.

Chirping the tires, burning rubber on launch.
These are loss of traction issues.

Hell of a lot of fun, and gives a strong sensation of power.

But breaking traction does mean slower.
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Originally Posted by dgp123
My biggest (and only) gripe about my C6 is the lag time when using the paddle shifters (I paid $1250 for that ? ) I think I might actually shift faster with a manual and I know I enjoy it more (I also have an S2000).

I was hoping it's a computer issue that could be reprogrammed but West Coast Corvette assured me it is mechanical and there's nothing can be done about it.
The A6 clutch-to-clutch auto tranny shifts in 0.1 sec.

The lag time is the from the paddle actuation signal to initiation of the shift.

The paddles can be fun, but they're not much more than a glorified PRNDL selector...without the PRN. As far as I'm concerned, this is fine since the F1 trannies that everyone seems to want get old fast when you're constantly getting kicked in the *** shifting in day to day traffic.

If you want to experience the A6 doing it's thing just, as previously stated, select "S" and punch it.

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