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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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I’m wondering if it’s not a design flaw that so many rocks are hitting the windshields on the C6. I have 2,158 miles on mine and I have seven dings in my windshield. I’m very careful that I do everything I can to not get hit with rocks. All the dings are small but I’ve never had anything like this on my other corvettes. Or could this be because the windshields are made of too soft of a product. Whatever the reason for the problem is, I believe GM should offer a low cost windshield replacement. Or is there a better replacement winshields to be had.
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24,000+ miles, not a problem Yet! and some bad roads at that. dont understand why your having such a problem, maybe a bad batch when made? anybody else?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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I haven't counted my windshield dings but now that you've mentioned it I have found a few already at 4,700 miles.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Ive only had 1 tiny chip in a windshield in 21 years of driving so your situation is strange to me. If you have a HUD the windshield is super expensive because its laminated glass. Two sheets combined that sandwich the HUDs projection screen between them. Down here in Florida if our windshield is cracked the state reimburses our insurance company so they fix it for free with no penalty. Finally a good state law!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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24,000+ miles, not a problem Yet! and some bad roads at that. dont understand why your having such a problem, maybe a bad batch when made? anybody else?

had the same problem - tried to have dings fixed by quick patch
inserting liquid glass etc. - but had to replace the whole thing..
i was told by an installer that some places use windwhields made
in mexico and that those windshields are more likely to ding easier.
so make sure that the product you buy is made in the us..
just at thought - what i was told..
good luck..
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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My windshield has what I consider a large amount of very small chips or imperfections. I can't say how it was driven before I got it but it's got ~23k on it now.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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At 46k, my C5's windshield was beginning to look like frosted glass. I've never had a car that seemed to get so many nicks and that includes a previous vette and a couple fbodies whose windshields have similar rakes.

I've heard the Mexican glass theory and the HUD windshields are softer theory... I was hoping the C6 wouldn't have this problem, but at 1200 miles, I've already found a really tiny ding. Unfortunately, right in my line of sight when looking straight ahead.
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I'm wondering if the one's of us who are having this problem shouldn't file with the National Highway and Safty about too easy to break windshields. If they chip so easy they are breaking and fact of the matter is, if we tried to trade the car in with the dinged up glass the dealer would offer a lower price because of it. I'm sure it's just as much a safty issue as a lower value issue.
If we file we can then bounce the ball back in GM's court. As we all know GM really ducked and dragged their feet over the top issue. So I'm sure by track record they will do the same on the glass issue as well.
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Originally Posted by Idaho Mark
I’m wondering if it’s not a design flaw that so many rocks are hitting the windshields on the C6. I have 2,158 miles on mine and I have seven dings in my windshield. I’m very careful that I do everything I can to not get hit with rocks. All the dings are small but I’ve never had anything like this on my other corvettes. Or could this be because the windshields are made of too soft of a product. Whatever the reason for the problem is, I believe GM should offer a low cost windshield replacement. Or is there a better replacement windshields to be had.
Any thoughts or feedback on this issue would be great.
I don't have a ding on the car to date - knock on wood - It's gonna happen, though - just hasn't yet. My C5 got 2 rock chips on the WS the day I bought it! Never got another....luck of the draw, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Idaho Mark
I'm wondering if the one's of us who are having this problem shouldn't file with the National Highway and Safty about too easy to break windshields. If they chip so easy they are breaking and fact of the matter is, if we tried to trade the car in with the dinged up glass the dealer would offer a lower price because of it. I'm sure it's just as much a safty issue as a lower value issue.
If we file we can then bounce the ball back in GM's court. As we all know GM really ducked and dragged their feet over the top issue. So I'm sure by track record they will do the same on the glass issue as well.
Well if we were all complaining about windshields breaking instead of collecting small dings that are just cosmetic, you might have a point. IMO, this isn't even near the same as tops coming of cars at speed or steering columns locking up (C5).

I think it's just an annoyance that only car enthusiasts would notice or care about.

edit: Almost forgot... as far as lowering the trade value. I don't think it was an issue for me. The guy that appraised the car never looked close enough at the car to see the windshield dings. Now maybe they factor a new one in on all trades, but I doubt that.
Suspect they just count on someone buying it without noticing (or caring).

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Try leaving a little more space between you and the car in front of you. That should help a little.
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The first reaction is "its a design flaw" and can't be my driving or environment of driving or all of the stuff coming from the roads these days.
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The first reaction is "its a design flaw" and can't be my driving or environment of driving or all of the stuff coming from the roads these days.
My reaction is based on the fact that my 04 vette had considerably more damage over the course of 3 years and 45k miles than my 94 Z28 had in 10 years and 110K miles. The miles rolled on those cars in the same locations and situations, i.e., my primary transportation in the same metro area. None of the other cars in my family had damage nearly as extensive during the same time.

I don't think there is any design flaw. My guess is the glass used in HUD windshields is softer for some reason, OR, the quality of the glass used just isn't as good.

Did I give this even a fleeting thought when handing GM well over 50 Large for my 07 vert? Nope! If I get a bunch of chips in this one, I'll fix it or trade it.
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Corvette windshields are much better in this respect than Porsche windshields. Porsche seems to use a softer glass compund that gets scratches really easily. I had an '84 Carrera with the heated front glass (yes, with embedded wires), and it was nearly impossible to see through it in less than 20K miles. Also really expensive to replace.

Having lived in Colorado at the time, I was used to having at least one major crack per year in my truck due to the 'gravel' they used on the roads, but my cars not driven in snowy weather generally performed better.

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I always check the mudflaps on trucks ahead of me on the highway.
It's Big tires that chuck most of the rocks.
Stay away from trucks.
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Originally Posted by Idaho Mark
I’m wondering if it’s not a design flaw that so many rocks are hitting the windshields on the C6. I have 2,158 miles on mine and I have seven dings in my windshield. I’m very careful that I do everything I can to not get hit with rocks. All the dings are small but I’ve never had anything like this on my other corvettes. Or could this be because the windshields are made of too soft of a product. Whatever the reason for the problem is, I believe GM should offer a low cost windshield replacement. Or is there a better replacement winshields to be had.
Any thoughts or feedback on this issue would be great.
It is a design issue. The car is very low, and is designed to have very good aerodynamics. The latter means that tiny rocks aren't deflected away from the windshield by the airflow. The former means the windshield is in the flight path of more rocks. If the windshield were higher above the ground, and the front of the car was blunt and caused the airflow to kick up, there'd be fewer small rocks reaching the windshield.
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Ive only had 1 tiny chip in a windshield in 21 years of driving so your situation is strange to me. If you have a HUD the windshield is super expensive because its laminated glass. Two sheets combined that sandwich the HUDs projection screen between them. Down here in Florida if our windshield is cracked the state reimburses our insurance company so they fix it for free with no penalty. Finally a good state law!
All windshields are laminated. It is a federal standard. It is called safety glass because there is a layer of plastic sandwiched between two layers of glass. Extra polishing of the inner surface is done on the HUD windshields (but frankly this doesn't increase the cost very much, and most of the higher price of so-called HUD windshields is simply higher profit because they can get away with charging more, not because it actually costs them that much more to make).
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Mine has a few little nicks as well. I don't think it's just because these cars are lower, but I'm sure doesn't help. My last car was a Honda Accord and in two years the windshield had numerous little pits all over the place. I asked a glass company and they consider it normal wear and tear. All the highway construction around here is a mess and the semi trucks that collect pebbles in their big tires and fling them up on your car & windshield make things worse. I've managed to avoid a lot of this by keeping a large enough distance if I'm behind a truck and if one pulls in front of me I simply change lanes altogether.
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All modern safety glass is "laminated." There is a plastic sheet between each layer of glass. The "HUD" windshield is nothing more than a marketing trick to charge a premium for what is nothing more than someone (or a machine) giving an extra level of polish to the plastic for higher reflectivity.

As for the glass itself, 3k miles, and already a rock chip, just above the line of sight. Many, if not most, here will have glass coverage on their auto insurance, and it typically required glass replacement (here in MN, that would include the headlight assemblies, taillights, hatch, side windows, and mirrors, PLUS the clear roof!) with no deductible. So, not a huge issue, but a pain in the A*S to get it repaired. I'm figuring it will need a total replacement about every 18 months or so since MN roads have a lot of gravel and other debris from our winters here.

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As for the above post concerning what an insurance company would consider "normal wear and tear" and not a glass claim, a mysterious hammer could always impact the glass prior to taking the car in for a claim!
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