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Old May 4, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TBIRD57
the computer on the automatics on cars is just widening....most corvettes sold i assume are still automatics----gm made automatics optional because they weren't making enough when they made them standard. more people want an automatic and gm makes more money.
the last figure i saw was that 6-7% percent of cars sold in america are
manuals. with gas prices,cvt's,hybrids,etc. the manual market will shrink more. the fastest of them all the bughati comes only with an automatic because it gives max. performance.

whatever you pick for whatever reason,just enjoy your corvette.
The Bugatti Veyron it is coming with an automatic indeed.
But it is not an ordinary automatic.
It is a 7 speed dual-clutch, the fastest of them all and a special one-off project only for this car. It shifts in 8 ms!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron
So we cannot bring it in this discussion for many reasons, one of them being that Veyron's transmission alone costs more than an entire C6 car.

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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TBIRD57
... with gas prices,cvt's,hybrids,etc. the manual market will shrink more.
The EPA estimates are slightly better for a manual than for an automatic, so you ought to leave gas prices out of your equation.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 2vettes
The EPA estimates are slightly better for a manual than for an automatic, so you ought to leave gas prices out of your equation.
Not entirely.
The average manual driver might use more gas as he may drive more aggressively. Of course if there were no manuals, they would drive automatics harder.
It also cost money (and fuel) to tool up and make the manual in the first place.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Paddles are for canoes.
Just curious. Have you ever driven an SMG/DSG equipped car?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Wow. It's amazing to me how much attention these manual vs automatic threads get!!

GM offers both because they need to in order to meet the various needs/desires of different buyers and the myriad of ways those buyers are going to use the car.

There is no wrong answer to this question, only OPINIONS and PREFERENCES, which are individual.

I like the "connectedness" to the car that I get with a manual that I personally don't perceive to be as high with an automatic. But my wife doesn't drive a stick so if she had any interest in driving the car, I would have bought an automatic. (I'm thankful she doesn't!!)

To each his own. There are positives and negatives to BOTH sides. The SMG was supposed to be the common ground and the best of both worlds. Having owned an SMG M5, I say "don't count on it". I'll do the clutching myself, thanks.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by O.T.A.
I would never comment on other peoples choices in cars, but for me personally, I would never buy a Corvette or any other performance car without a manual transmission.

I would never buy an M3 with an SMG, and I had no interest in an M5 until the 6sp manual became available.

I also know that some cars like the Ferrari 360/430 and the M5 are faster with the auto boxes, but I prefer a manual.

To each his or her own, but I feel that a big part of the enjoyment of a "sports" car is manually rowing the shifter.
Amen Brother As the late Johnny Cochran once said. " If you can't row, you can't go. " Or something like that. Never had a Vette with an Auto. Never will.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SONKIST
Wow. It's amazing to me how much attention these manual vs automatic threads get!!

GM offers both because they need to in order to meet the various needs/desires of different buyers and the myriad of ways those buyers are going to use the car.

There is no wrong answer to this question, only OPINIONS and PREFERENCES, which are individual.

I like the "connectedness" to the car that I get with a manual that I personally don't perceive to be as high with an automatic. But my wife doesn't drive a stick so if she had any interest in driving the car, I would have bought an automatic. (I'm thankful she doesn't!!)

To each his own. There are positives and negatives to BOTH sides. The SMG was supposed to be the common ground and the best of both worlds. Having owned an SMG M5, I say "don't count on it". I'll do the clutching myself, thanks.
That's NOT how this thread started.
It's about why do manual drivers look down on automatics?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Calif Vetteman
Never had a Vette with an Auto. Never will.
Silly thought.
I wonder what would happen to sales if....

Whoops new thread.....
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
Silly thought.
I wonder what would happen to sales if....

Whoops new thread.....
Yes, best let sleeping dogs alone.

Have a good one, Dave
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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It is all personal choice. Both have their advantages. The manual provides more control and more of a direct feel but it requires more effort to drive. Personally, I think the effort is worth it.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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I Think The Reason Is Because When Your`e Driving A Manual Transmission Car, Be It A Sports Car Or Any Other Car, Your`e More In Control Of Your`e Vehicle, That`s Not Taking Anything Away From An Automatic........................
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
And that manly instinct always includes a 'hard stick' to jerk around.
i'd have sworn that was a WOmanly instinct.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oyealiz
i'd have sworn that was a WOmanly instinct.
whoa...man, and she drags as well
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KMK454
Think of it this way - would you rather a.) eat filet mignon with a fork and knife, or b.) put it through a blender and ingest it through a feeding tube?
Best humorous argument so far!
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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I prefer the manual transmission driving experience, but considered an auto based only on the fact that it was a bit quicker in the 1/4 mile. Then I realized how infrequently that would matter at all given my plans.

I wonder how many auto-enthusiasts would switch their preference to manual if the drag-racing advantage didn't exist?
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