0corvetteconti @ EVS

Thank-you and read article - CLICK HERE!

noel48

As always,good info.Thanks Rick

LouieM

Thanks for clearing up the definitions.

0corvetteconti @ EVS

thank-you and you're welcome guys!

123vette456

Rick, I understand what you are saying, BUT, when forum dealers including you "11~2007's @ "TRUE" GMS pricing...." offer vetts to the public at GMS, GSU, GMID etc. then why not post the prices for all to see as soon as possible?

When you say, "For those that post this, especially other retail entities, I find this irresponsible. You make the market more confusing to those that cannot even obtain these price levels and ruin the value we as representatives are trying to display to a new customer. It is not available to everyone and therefore should be just thrown out there as if it were!"

I think is wrong. Sooner or later a dealer will offer GMS or Supplier or GMID to everyone even without the certificate and post the prices. Even you. So it is available to everyone.
No offence but your post seems a little off base.
Just a thought and I do respect all you have done for the forum and will call you when I am ready again to buy.

The Clevite Kid

Thanx for your perspective, Rick. I am entitled to Supplier pricing, and was able to use it in early 2006 when many dealers were not honoring it. Those who are actually entitled to Employee or Supplier pricing know how to use GM's appropriate websites to get the pricing for their discounts.

Also, thanx for the "GSU" TLA (Three Letter Anacronym) to differentiate Employee pricing from Supplier pricing. I hope "GSU" catches on to help simplify discussions.

streetpix

I'm confused...

"My thoughts are - we should post this on line..."

and then

"For those that post this, especially other retail entities, I find this irresponsible."


Those two views seem contrary - perhaps there's something I'm not getting. Which one is your position?

jschindler

I don't see any reason not to post them. Invoice prices are going to be all over the internet very soon (Edmunds, KBB etc). Invoice pricing is meaningless because consumers have no way of knowing how much a dealer really needs to make in relation to invoice to make a fair profit. In addition, we all know there are many behind the scenes incentives and marketing dollars that change hands from GM and the dealership.

On the other hand, Employee and Supplier prices are a set price that GM has made available to qualifying buyers. In fact, GM prohibits dealers form making any "adjustments" to these prices if the dealer agrees to sell the customer at one of these price programs.

So what's the harm in sharing it?

JBVette

Thanks Rick. I am looking forward to hearing back from you on the deal we discussed this morning.

need-for-speed

I don't understand your point Rick. Most people here are smart enough to understand whether or not they qualify for one of the programs. In fact, if one has to ask, then they probably don't qualify.

I think what we are seeing is open competition between the dealers and the consumer benefits from that.

ben dover

Why not post'em. They will always find their way to the forum.

jschindler

There are some Aggies on this forum - they might have to ask....

S2K

I was confused about this as well. However, I think it is clear he meant we should NOT post this on line... I believe this was a typo of omission on Rick's part. If you read what follows, the context makes it clear what he means. I would expect that he will see this and fix it.

GMID I'd like to see as it is possible for someone to try and get this. For the others, I would agree that you'd already know if it applied to you. It would be interesting to see, but not much more.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!

0corvetteconti @ EVS

Not the point at all...I get endless questions...what is GMS, GMID,etc,etc...and they feel as if they are not getting something they should....

Thank-you for your views.

as far as competition....no sweat - just give me a shot ~ I play to win! that benefits the customers and I'm not afraid to make the effort to do so too!

need-for-speed

need-for-speed

OK. I don't blame you at all WRT having to answer the same questions over and over. In fact, your definitions of the various GM programs should be a sticky. But the rest of your article on that subject......I'll just say we appreciate our supporting vendors here and not try to figure out what you are trying to say. I know I've hit the keyboard a time or two after downing a few

AORoads

Not true.* YOU know. I know. Most even on this forum, don't know that for a fact. Most don't believe it. Many car salespersons don't know it (OP and other Forum Vendor/Dealers not included.). Or claim not to know it.

The facts are, 1) "invoice" IS what a dealer is charged. It is NOT what a dealer necessarily ends up PAYING for that car. Or any car. And all other numbers (mine included ) after the first one are immaterial. All numbers after that one are "profit".

* that doesn't mean you're telling a lie. it means that the statement is inaccurate for many others.

TxAggie

I heard those Aggies rock by the way!

gota07

Not necessarily, last summer when I bought my '07 from Rick, I was confused as to just which GM program that a GMID certificate entitled me to. I had heard about the GM Share It plan that allowed suppliers to share their certificates with friends, and TooManyIDs was kind enough to share one of his with me.

I ended up forwarding all the info that was given to me off to Rick and he gave me a price that was better than I had gotten at a local dealer, so I was happy with the deal even though I wasn't sure if it was the GM Supplier price or the GM In The Driveway price.

I would think that anyone currently in the same position that I was last summer would appreciate a good description of the GM discount programs, and I applaud Rick for making the descriptions available to us.