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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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wll the owner of the montery red c6 convertable who stayed at the bloomingdale marriott at bloomington gold, please contact me. i did sustain damage from the water that was sprayed on the rear of my 2003 as did you. the hotel has now disavowed any responsability for the severe waterspotting you and i have sustained. if you will contact me we can take action together making a stronger case. if you recall, we met at the exhaust install tent ( mid america, i believe) and you said you were going to complain too when i showed you the spots on your rear deck. thanks for your reply....r.g.johnson..rgjpjj@insightbb.c om

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Wash it in a gallon white vinegar and a gallon of water......no more water spots.....
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Wash it in a gallon white vinegar and a gallon of water......no more water spots.....
Innocent question. Will the vinegar eat up the clear coat??
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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A good clay bar rub down with a splash of soapy water during the rub always seems to do the trick for me. However my 5 coats of Zaino base may have something to do with the great results.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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I have black, and the most terrible water in the Southwest (....shut-up, yes I do... .). Water spots all the time. When I cant stand it anymore, its vinegar wash followed by wax (Rejex).
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Hot car, i love it!
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ51Vett
I have black, and the most terrible water in the Southwest (....shut-up, yes I do... .). Water spots all the time. When I cant stand it anymore, its vinegar wash followed by wax (Rejex).
Vinegar wash, as in straight vinegar? Inspired! Btw, nice car. I have one just like it.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Good luck. I had to have a "come to Jesus" with more than one hotel over this same issue. Fortunatley for me, the water spots came out. Hotels should be shot for this sort of thing. I actually did have water spots on a black car once that I was not able to get out - using everything people have suggested.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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car polish--sh-t happens. I hope that is the worst thing that happens to your car.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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What responsibility woould you have the hotel take for water spots?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Just curious. What did the hotel do to result in the "water spotting" of your car?

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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they got my car with their sprinkler system. i had my vette parked in an area where ther were no other vehicles yet with the tail end to the curb about two feet in. i do show the vette so i am protective of it and it has +/- 12k miles. when i came out in the morning there was huge water spots on the rear deck and rear fenders wit a light brown film where it had evarorated. when i tried to wash it off, at the hotel, it left outlines of the spots. i tried wax cleaner, scratch remover and then polishing compound, rings still there. i have many pics of the marks and the lady at the desk also took pics of the spots and gave me the gm's card to contact her. initally the gm said she would contact their insurance company and they would get with me. no call from monday thru friday, so i called and she then said she had talked to the hq's and they said they were not going to do ANYTHING, i could just go and do whatever i thought i wanted to do. i have estimates from detailers of from 400 to 600$ to wet sand and buff the tail end- should i eat it --i don't think so... for you all's safety, this is the marriott hotel in bloomingtondale ..DO NOT STAY THERE. they are not going to afford you the protection you pay for if ANYTHING happens to your property.
it might eve be a good idea just to NOT stay at any marriott if the hq''s has this kind of attitude about their PAYING guests. oh, i might add there was another vette, a c6, which got spotted too. he is the owner i'm trying to get in contact with.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2vettes2go
...no call from monday thru friday, so i called and she then said she had talked to the hq's and they said they were not going to do ANYTHING, i could just go and do whatever i thought i wanted to do.
Fine.
Small Claims Court's your only recourse & they know it.
Sounds to me like they're wagering you won't go through the hassle.

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...i have estimate(s) from detailers of from 400 to 600$ to wet sand and buff the tail end...
Between $400 to $600 is $500, so make $500 the amount you sue for.
Make sure you've all the written estimate(s) justifing your claim, all reciept(s) for the days of your stay, photo(s) and all correspondences you've had with the hotel's management and/or reps.
Bring all that stuff & you'll be dress-right-dress for properly presenting, and proving your case.

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...- should i eat it -- i don't think so...
You answered your own question.

All h/motels located in and around Bloomington, Illinois know full well Corvette owners transcend in droves for Bloomington Gold and hundreds if not thousands will seek lodging with their business.

Corvette owners are mighty persnickity when it comes to their Corvettes, regardless the vinatge, and while not germane to [a] suite, the inn keepers know that, too.

IF any h/motel owner don't want and/or refuses to accept liability for their guest's Corvettes parked on their premise, they should turn-away the Corvette enthusiatst(s) who attempt to book.
Period.

Otherwise?
They're most certainly liable for any & all damage(s) not considered, "Acts of God".

But we know the inn keepers w/don't turn away the hords; infact, Bloomington et al inn keepers anxiously await BG every year since the event brings them a nice tidy spike in profits, for an otherwise sleepy summer college town.

In any event & if a'tall possible bring this before a judge, providing you've the time - resources - and are PO'ed enough.
Methinks you'll probably win your case.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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On several occasions the same has happened to my MS 05 convertible. Sprinklers at the shopping centers, hotels, neighbors, etc. We have had great success with the vinegar wash 50/50 with water followed by a clay bar and waxing as recommended above. Even a week later after the hot sun baked it on. No offense, but I think you need to chill a bit and have another go at it. Like the posts above mention, stuff happens when we drive them.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Most hotels post signage advising vehicle owners that they're not responsible for loss or damage in the parking lots- - their viewpoint is that damage may have been pre-existing. Local management rarely has the authority to mitigate such issues.

Even with a rental car, I'll park away from grassy areas and islands that have sprinklers simply to avoid the problem - - it's not unusual.

The same responsibility applies to parking next to someone that might open a door into your car - - you simply have to be proactive, and protect yourself by avoiding those situations where damage can occur as best you can.

It's doesn't feel right - -but it's what we need to do to protect what's valuable from the careless actions of others in my view.

Good luck to the OP - - hope you get your Vette straightened around.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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I think the hotel should buy you a brand new Vette. That'll show them to use sprinklers and water to hydrate their vegetation!

C'mon, it's a hotel and water spots. What do you expect them to do, pay to have your car detailed by any company you choose?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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While I feel for you, I also don't think the Hotel is soley responsible. Did you do everything in your power to prevent this? If your car is shown a lot and you care that much for your car, you should take adequate precautions such as a car cover and parking away from the sprinklers. I also don't think the hotel would add anything to the water, so your claim should be to both the hotel and more importantly, the water source (ie municipal water supply).
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While I feel for you, I also don't think the Hotel is soley responsible. Did you do everything in your power to prevent this? If your car is shown a lot and you care that much for your car, you should take adequate precautions such as a car cover and parking away from the sprinklers. I also don't think the hotel would add anything to the water, so your claim should be to both the hotel and more importantly, the water source (ie municipal water supply).
Municipal water supplies have to be fit for human consumption. As long as that's the case, there is no liability on the part of the municipal water supplier. In other words, the water is fit for its intended purpose. Misuse of the water for other purposes is still often considered beyond their control.

But increasingly, it has become illegal to waste drinking quality water by using it for irrigation. In many places, you are subject to fines and cut off of water if you are found misusing drinking quality water in this way.

Those who insist on using non-native plants for landscaping are more and more being required to use grey water for irrigation. A number of cities are also banning sprinklers, forcing use of more efficient means of irrigation such as drip irrigation, soaker hoses, etc in the instances where they permit non-agricultural irrigation at all.

In my area there are strict limits on the use of municipal water for outdoor watering, car washing, etc. There is a hotline people can call to report violators. It is a $500 fine for the first offense, and termination of water supplies for the second offense.

Misuse and waste of drinking quality water is quickly becoming a national problem. We all need to do our part by challenging those who misuse drinking quality water.
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While I feel for you, I also don't think the Hotel is soley responsible. Did you do everything in your power to prevent this? If your car is shown a lot and you care that much for your car, you should take adequate precautions such as a car cover and parking away from the sprinklers. I also don't think the hotel would add anything to the water, so your claim should be to both the hotel and more importantly, the water source (ie municipal water supply).
Having had this happen more than once, I take serious issue with your comments. There is no way of knowing where their sprinklers are or when they will come on.

The hotel should know damn well that there sprinkler system is getting water all over their customers cars. Even if they didn't leave water spots, they damn well shouldn't be so careless with customers vehicles.

How would you like it if you were going to work in the morning in a $500 suit a dress shirt, and a sprinkler system along a sidewalk to your office building suddenly came on and got water all over your suit and shirt?

Also, having a sign up saying they are not responsible does not protect them from negligence.

By the way, the last time it happened to me, I talked to the manager (Fairmont Inn I think it was) and he could not have been any nicer. He offered to comp my room, and said he would try to make changes. The water spots came right out, so I did not pursue it any further.

In your case, I contact Marriott Corporate customer relations.

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Vinegar wash, as in straight vinegar? Inspired! Btw, nice car. I have one just like it.
No, actually I use 1 gallon white vinegar and about a gallon (maybe more) of water. Just do a regular wash, rinsing throughly (hit the bad water spots again) and thats it....
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