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The deal with a flatbed driver needing to use the slots for tie downs doesn't bother me because if he knows about the slots then he can remove the pucks, and even if he doesn't, the odds are that I will be there on the scene when my Vette gets put on the flatbed anyway.
What does bother me about leaving the pucks on the car are the chance of them coming loose and falling off while driving. That could cause damage that could have otherwise been prevented by storing them in the rear compartments. I think it also increases the chance of hitting the top of a speed bump or some road debris as the puck now becomes the lowest point on the car (other than the front spoiler). Especially for those that have lowered their ride height.
I'm sure that's $6.45 each...for a set of four (4).
To the OP....it's your decision but I would not leave the jacking pucks installed 24/7. If you're car breaks-down on the road, the towing service will need to utilize the oval frame slots to affix J-hooks on their cable(s) to winch your car up onto the flatbed. In which case, you will have to remove the jacking pucks.
I don't know about you but if my car breaks-down I'm already PO'd. I don't want the added aggravation of (potentially) having to lay in the rain and mud alongside a busy freeway trying to remove my jacking pucks before the tow truck arrives. I'll get to the service facility before they start working on the car and snap them in myself. I'd much rather carry them in the storage cubby and install them as needed.
Although I think they improve with use, my BMW jacking pucks required a fair amount of prying and leverage to remove. A large flat head screw driver was needed to pry them loose. I modified my rectangular BMW jacking pucks per a DIY thread posted some time ago....I drilled part-way down into the center pins and then screwed-in a small, brass screw....leaving the heads and a small amount of the screw shaft sticking-out. This made it much easier to grasp the center pins and easier to remove the jacking pucks.
I chose to go with a CF vendor - Elite Engineering, for pucks. Cost $49.00 including shipping and no sales tax. For a few bucks more I have a product that does not stay on the car until needed and support CF vendor.
When I had to have the Vette flat bedded the driver just used the slots and no worry about him or me having to lie on the ground to take out semi-permanently installed BMW pucks.
At the GY service center, I give the tech the puck, only needed to lift left front, and he knew exactly what to do, just place in opening and turn. After the job was finished, easy to remove and back into the rear cubby.
If anyone cares, I bought rectangular ones from Bavarian Autosport (bavauto.com - part # 51 71 8 268 885) when my local BMW dealership (Hendricks in Pleasanton CA) wanted ~$17 EACH for the same thing (yes, I gave them a part #)! Paid $6 bucks each for a set of 4. Perfect fit. I leave 'em on. However, I have noticed recently that from a distance even on a level surface (like in a large parking lot) you can see them. Interesting that my 328i came stock with similar (lower profile) pucks.
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Does it matter that they are rectangular and not round?
BMW makes two types of pucks that fit OUR car. The rectangular ones are thicker but have an indented face surface (51 71 8 268 885), and they make a set that is round (51 71 1 960 752) that are much thinner with a flat base better for stands. I got both. The round ones JUST clear the rocker panels providing you with a small margin of safety, but are hard to see when on the car (for daily driving). The rectangular ones are more visible but are further from your rockers, better for lifts.
. The owner stopped the guy and pointed out that he had the BMW pucks installed. The owner told me that even he could see how the pucks got missed because they were black in color to begin with and the fact that they had been under his car for a few months just made matters worse. After that ordeal, he actually considered painting the pucks white to make them more visible.
Anyone who can overlook jacking pucks that are in place is just plain ignorant of the appropriate jacking position for a 4 arm lift or is just plain lazy. Maybe a combination of the two.
If a jacking puck and frame are so encrusted with dirt and grime that they become difficult to distinguish from each other, the owner has neglected his car to the extent that he doesn't deserve such a fine vehicle.
Anyone who can overlook jacking pucks that are in place is just plain ignorant of the appropriate jacking position for a 4 arm lift or is just plain lazy. Maybe a combination of the two.
If a jacking puck and frame are so encrusted with dirt and grime that they become difficult to distinguish from each other, the owner has neglected his car to the extent that he doesn't deserve such a fine vehicle.
You may be correct on both counts, especially about the guy setting up the lift rack. In defence of the owner, he drives the wheels off his C6. It's an '06 and he has in the neighborhood of 31,000 miles because it's his daily driver, heck it's his only driver!
The deal with a flatbed driver needing to use the slots for tie downs doesn't bother me because if he knows about the slots then he can remove the pucks, and even if he doesn't, the odds are that I will be there on the scene when my Vette gets put on the flatbed anyway.
What does bother me about leaving the pucks on the car are the chance of them coming loose and falling off while driving. That could cause damage that could have otherwise been prevented by storing them in the rear compartments. I think it also increases the chance of hitting the top of a speed bump or some road debris as the puck now becomes the lowest point on the car (other than the front spoiler). Especially for those that have lowered their ride height.
BMW pucks are semi-permanent and can't come out accidentally.
The front spoiler is still lower than the taller (rectangular) BMW puck. I've scraped my front spolier going over speed bumps, but never the rectangular pucks.
To the OP....it's your decision but I would not leave the jacking pucks installed 24/7. If you're car breaks-down on the road, the towing service will need to utilize the oval frame slots to affix J-hooks on their cable(s) to winch your car up onto the flatbed. In which case, you will have to remove the jacking pucks.
I don't know about you but if my car breaks-down I'm already PO'd. I don't want the added aggravation of (potentially) having to lay in the rain and mud alongside a busy freeway trying to remove my jacking pucks before the tow truck arrives. I'll get to the service facility before they start working on the car and snap them in myself. I'd much rather carry them in the storage cubby and install them as needed.
From the other puck thread:
Why would you lie down in the rain and mud?
In fact, why would you lie down at all?
If you don't need to lie down to snap pucks in you don't need to lie down to remove them.
To each his own, but I use them as they were intended. Snap 'em in and forget 'em.
If you're going to install them only when you intend to use them and remove them afterward, why go through the hassle of using BMW pucks? Just use Elite or hockey puck temporary pucks.
Thanks to all that posted. I decided to buy the elite pucks. I have the BMW pucks now, and I will keep them in the car also. I am more afraid of the removing issue (really good example of rain and mud, not for me!, I have worked too hard for the privilege of not getting dirty) than the cost. if I get a flat and need a flat bed tow, then saving the $$$$ will seem like a poor investment, besides, I can always sell them to another Vette owner later.
Be clear - you do NOT need pucks to lift the car without damage. You DO need pucks to have the car lifted by idiots that don't know what they are doing or don't give a chit how they do it. Even you provide pucks and directions, sometimes it is a crap shoot.
If you're going to install them only when you intend to use them and remove them afterward, why go through the hassle of using BMW pucks? Just use Elite or hockey puck temporary pucks.