A6 wheel spin technique
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A6 wheel spin technique
I have an 06 A6 coupe and have not really been able to spin the back wheels the way I want to (my excuse is that I am trying to use up the OEM tires so I can justify replacement with FWOs by Thanksgiving). I have turned off the traction control in all three ways (single push, second push, 5 second hold) and on clean dry asphault in fully auto mode I get a small chirp when it goes into second but it never breaks loose in first. I have to admit I am not quite flooring the accelerator, I wonder if that is the difference. In M6 cars I have had no problem getting broken loose and staying that way.
Would I have a better chance in sport mode assuming I can figure out when to start the 1-2 upshift to avoid overreving my engine? Its pretty hot here in Alabama, will winter weather increase my HP by enough to matter? I saw a poster who claimed around 50BHP difference in AZ between summer and winter temps.
Any hints or advice?
Would I have a better chance in sport mode assuming I can figure out when to start the 1-2 upshift to avoid overreving my engine? Its pretty hot here in Alabama, will winter weather increase my HP by enough to matter? I saw a poster who claimed around 50BHP difference in AZ between summer and winter temps.
Any hints or advice?
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St. Jude Donor '13, '15
I'm trying hard to understand your post. You want to spin the tires in first, yet you are not flooring the accelerator? With full heat soak and warm tires on good pavement, the tires wont spin much. It's more hook and go. If you really want to spin em mash the brake, floor the accelerator, and let off the brake when you have produced the desired amount of smoke. 
By the way at the rate Firestone is going they might not even have FWO's by Thanksgiving. Many members are saying dealers can't even quote a delivery time, because Firestone won't give them one.
By the way at the rate Firestone is going they might not even have FWO's by Thanksgiving. Many members are saying dealers can't even quote a delivery time, because Firestone won't give them one.
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Not sure what my resistance to full throttle is. I mean, I am pushing it most of the way but it goes to 5000-6000 rpm so quickly its almost hard to control. I have never owned a V8 that would rev this quick, I really wish the lowest gear in the A6 was taller, maybe about halfway between 1st and the current 2nd gear. In my 06 1st is geared at about 7mph per 1000rpm and 2nd is about 14mph per 1000rpm.
My real issue is with how fast the car gets moving. In my older hot rod days I could break the tires loose with the car practically standing still, and then keep the forward motion manageable. I guess the difference is that I am not really breaking the tires fully loose and so am getting lots of speed instead of lots of smoke and noise.
Will revisit tonght with floored accelerator somewhere with plenty of road width.
My real issue is with how fast the car gets moving. In my older hot rod days I could break the tires loose with the car practically standing still, and then keep the forward motion manageable. I guess the difference is that I am not really breaking the tires fully loose and so am getting lots of speed instead of lots of smoke and noise.
Will revisit tonght with floored accelerator somewhere with plenty of road width.
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I ain't poor by any stretch of the imagination, and can afford new tires but I am having a hard time understanding the obsession with burning the rubber off of $700 worth of tires.
That being said, I am pretty careful when starting from a dead stop, red light/stop sign, as my tires will break loose momentarily on a WOT start, even with AH and TC engaged.
Stock 07 A6 Vert.
That being said, I am pretty careful when starting from a dead stop, red light/stop sign, as my tires will break loose momentarily on a WOT start, even with AH and TC engaged.
Stock 07 A6 Vert.
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I have 21000 miles on the OEM tires and the noise is driving me crazy. I have never owned a set of tires that made this much noise, except maybe on a farm vehicle. I tried to find a place to turn some tread off to regularize the feathering but this is a small town and the two businesses I could find were unfamiliar with even jacking the car, one could not balance 19inch wheels.
Its two bad because I can probably get 30000 miles on these tires given my driving conditions (almost all freeway speeds, good road surfaces, north Alabama climate).
Its two bad because I can probably get 30000 miles on these tires given my driving conditions (almost all freeway speeds, good road surfaces, north Alabama climate).
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St. Jude Donor '13
I sure dont have a problem spinning my wheels! I have a 06 a6 with 5600 miles, i can flat out burn the tires off if i wanted, but never did a burn out in my life and dont plan on it.
Even with a heat soaked car in temps about 94 degrees here in Florida, just a tiny tap of the gas and they spin!
Even with a heat soaked car in temps about 94 degrees here in Florida, just a tiny tap of the gas and they spin!
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St. Jude Donor '13, '15
I sure dont have a problem spinning my wheels! I have a 06 a6 with 5600 miles, i can flat out burn the tires off if i wanted, but never did a burn out in my life and dont plan on it.
Even with a heat soaked car in temps about 94 degrees here in Florida, just a tiny tap of the gas and they spin!
Even with a heat soaked car in temps about 94 degrees here in Florida, just a tiny tap of the gas and they spin!
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I think the type of pavement has something to do with it. I have driven 3 different A6's and not one of them would spin the tires with a tiny tap of the gas. And none of them would "burn the tires off" either. Full heat soak and floored, the all hook and go. Maybe a tiny spin at first, but then they hook.
This is not a life or death issue for me but I was thinking there might be a trick to the automatic transmission.
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You could try some doughnuts on a parking lot. The smoother the surface, the easier to loose grip. On manual and first, I can spin without any effort. From a stop, turn the wheel and floor it. Even if you don't WOT, you will spin. A few of these and your 'feathering' should even out. But if you are REALLY having a lot of tire unevenness, you should get your suspension and alignment checked. Your dealer should be able to do it under warranty if your car is under 7500mi.
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St. Jude Donor '13
I think the type of pavement has something to do with it. I have driven 3 different A6's and not one of them would spin the tires with a tiny tap of the gas. And none of them would "burn the tires off" either. Full heat soak and floored, they all hook and go. Maybe a tiny spin at first, but then they hook.
We dont get much rain here in my part of FL maybe built up oil is one reason.
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Having a 1/3 of a tank or less of (premium only) fuel, no passenger and no cargo will also help aid in the burnout process.
Ahhh the old 'reverse drop' method, closely related to the 'neutral drop' exercise as well. 
You are kidding I assume for that is one of the fastest ways to kill a perfectly good $4k+ transmission.
You are kidding I assume for that is one of the fastest ways to kill a perfectly good $4k+ transmission.
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I have no need to burn-up expensive run-flats, but I have had no problem breaking the tires loose when I'm in a hurry. Mash the peddle to the floor and hang on...
07,F55,A6
If you don't mind abusing your tranny, put it in neutral - rev up the engine a few thousand RPM's and drop it in gear with full peddle.
07,F55,A6
If you don't mind abusing your tranny, put it in neutral - rev up the engine a few thousand RPM's and drop it in gear with full peddle.
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I have no need to burn-up expensive run-flats, but I have had no problem breaking the tires loose when I'm in a hurry. Mash the peddle to the floor and hang on...
07,F55,A6
If you don't mind abusing your tranny, put it in neutral - rev up the engine a few thousand RPM's and drop it in gear with full peddle.
07,F55,A6
If you don't mind abusing your tranny, put it in neutral - rev up the engine a few thousand RPM's and drop it in gear with full peddle.
How many people out there routinely go to WOT? And I dont mean MOSTLY wide-open, or nearly all the way, I am talking peddle against the stop.
. WOT from stop twice. ARE YOU SERIOUS? both times (w/TC off) i had to back off because the car was going sideways!!!!!! 
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This is an attempt to have a little fun with the car, not commit auto-suicide. I can barely convince myself to fully floor the accelerator let alone abuse a transmission like that. Although I bet it would survive the first attempt...
How many people out there routinely go to WOT? And I dont mean MOSTLY wide-open, or nearly all the way, I am talking peddle against the stop.
How many people out there routinely go to WOT? And I dont mean MOSTLY wide-open, or nearly all the way, I am talking peddle against the stop.
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St. Jude Donor '13
I dont get much of a chance to do WOT runs, since 90% of my driving is city, i am up past the speed limit so fast.
Sometimes on the highway with no traffic around doing 65pmh i will give it a short burst.
Sometimes on the highway with no traffic around doing 65pmh i will give it a short burst.