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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Default TEST DATA here for: C5 Z06 vs LS2 vs LS3.....

Okay, I guess we might as well beat this up some more (despite what I said in another thread). Too hot to go to the dragstrip anyway.

Here is a new twist on the debate as to how potent the new LS3 is. The data below is all from Car & Driver magazine tests. I decided to stick with one magazine for the best potential consistency. They actually tested three LS2s, but one was a convertible (I do have that data). The second LS2 test below was a comparison test with a Porsche.

Unfortunately, in some tests they list data at every 10mph increment, and some they don't.


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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Very cool, good post. I still find it intersting that a 436 hp car is equal to a 405 hp car. How much lighter was that thing?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Very cool, good post. I still find it intersting that a 436 hp car is equal to a 405 hp car. How much lighter was that thing?
I doubt it The 2008 stock to stock would pull on the stock c5z 02-04's.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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I think the c5 Z's are a 100-200 lbs lighter than the 08's.
I doubt it The 2008 stock to stock would pull on the stock c5z 02-04's
Why not?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'en Silver 02
I doubt it The 2008 stock to stock would pull on the stock c5z 02-04's.
According to that graph above, it doesn't pull on it in the 1/4 mile. Time will tell if it best the 5 or so best 1/4 mile times posted for the C5Z.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Great info . Thanks for posting
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Originally Posted by Bills Z06
Great info . Thanks for posting
Bill - I wasn't thinking clearly. I should have added the C6 Z06 just to bring us LS3 owners back down to earth!

Maybe I'll add that tomorrow.
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biting my tongue! cool graph, great breakdown
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Originally Posted by Rock'en Silver 02
I doubt it The 2008 stock to stock would pull on the stock c5z 02-04's.
From a roll, I'd almost guarantee it.

The chart is interesting, but lets put some things into perspective. First of all, look at the fact that two virutally identical LS2's were tested by the same magazine and came up with pretty significant differences in performance.

Second, how many of you buy that the 405 hp Z06 was so much faster than the 385 version? Look at the difference to the higher speeds. Those are huge differences.
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Doesn't the mag do those rolling numbers, like 20-65 or some such? Maybe I'm wrong. I think Road and Track may. Or Motor Trend.

Good thread, tho. It'll be even more interesting when you add the C6Z06.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
From a roll, I'd almost guarantee it.

The chart is interesting, but lets put some things into perspective. First of all, look at the fact that two virutally identical LS2's were tested by the same magazine and came up with pretty significant differences in performance.

Second, how many of you buy that the 405 hp Z06 was so much faster than the 385 version? Look at the difference to the higher speeds. Those are huge differences.
Great point. I find it odd that with 20 exta hp the 405 hp z takes four secs less to get to 150 mph than the 385 hp z. How does this add up?
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Unless those were all tested with the same driver, on the same track and most importantly, the same day, which they weren't, the times don't mean a hill of beans.

But thanks for compiling the times
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Originally Posted by glenB
Unless those were all tested with the same driver, on the same track and most importantly, the same day, which they weren't, the times don't mean a hill of beans.

But thanks for compiling the times
And that may be a pertinent point. Maybe all the times posted on the forum don't mean a hill of beans. But that damn sure doesn't stop us from micro-analyzing them. I figure that tests done by a magazine, where they at least do have consistent procedures, and the drivers are - by the very definition - professionals who do it for a living, should have more meaning than damn near any results we read on a forum posted by people who in most cases we don't even know what their real name is
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Very cool post, thanks for getting all the data in one place.
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Originally Posted by chirocorvette
Very cool, good post. I still find it intersting that a 436 hp car is equal to a 405 hp car. How much lighter was that thing?
My C5Z is 3055 with an 1/8 of a tank of fuel, someone else posted theirs was 3046 awhile back as well.
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Good post Jim.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
I figure that tests done by a magazine, where they at least do have consistent procedures, and the drivers are - by the very definition - professionals who do it for a living, should have more meaning than damn near any results we read on a forum posted by people who in most cases we don't even know what their real name is
Excellent point; and by extension, wouldn't that mean that Chevrolet's published times have even more meaning considering the multiple tests they conduct using their own professional drivers on the same track with all results corrected to standard day conditions and then averaged to come up with what is presented to us?

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Thanks Jim, looking forward to the Z numbers.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
And that may be a pertinent point. Maybe all the times posted on the forum don't mean a hill of beans. But that damn sure doesn't stop us from micro-analyzing them. I figure that tests done by a magazine, where they at least do have consistent procedures, and the drivers are - by the very definition - professionals who do it for a living, should have more meaning than damn near any results we read on a forum posted by people who in most cases we don't even know what their real name is
You may be right but be careful, if we're going to start questioning/doubting the validity/global accuracy of 'forum member track times' then we have to question ALL of the posted results, the new LS3 times included.
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Originally Posted by Marina Blue
Excellent point; and by extension, wouldn't that mean that Chevrolet's published times have even more meaning considering the multiple tests they conduct using their own professional drivers on the same track with all results corrected to standard day conditions and then averaged to come up with what is presented to us?
Yes, I agree with that.
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