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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Been a long time vette lover, looking at getting my first one.

I'm an avid believer that an automatic on a sports car, is just a crime. I just test drove a 08' with the new paddle system, and I got to say that I loved it! After a test drive, I was sold that this is the best of all worlds. It was the first time I had driven a paddle system.

I found the ability to up and down shift with a single hand, very nice. But the one thing that hit me was that the paddle system wasn't very intuitive... it seemed completely backwards.

Maybe it's from years of motorcycle riding, but to me upshifting is a lifting or pulling action. Where a downshift is a push or downward action.
I found on my first time test drive that the paddle system felt completely backwards... I kept wanting to naturally downshift, when I wanted to upshift. (pulling the paddle on an accelerate felt natural).

My friends reaction was "You'll get used to it"... but it's all computer controlled right? So I shouldn't have to... so my question: Is it configurable that you can flip the Up/Down shift on the paddle system?

I want pushing with my thumbs to be a down shift, and pulling to be an upshift.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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You will get used to it. It took me all of a few days. Although nothing I can do about the carpel tunnel you may get...



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My '08 has the A6 and this is my first adventure with paddle shift. I must say, I love the feel and performance compromise between the A6 and M6 via paddle shift.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoobie
Been a long time vette lover, looking at getting my first one.

I'm an avid believer that an automatic on a sports car, is just a crime. I just test drove a 08' with the new paddle system, and I got to say that I loved it! After a test drive, I was sold that this is the best of all worlds. It was the first time I had driven a paddle system.

I found the ability to up and down shift with a single hand, very nice. But the one thing that hit me was that the paddle system wasn't very intuitive... it seemed completely backwards.

Maybe it's from years of motorcycle riding, but to me upshifting is a lifting or pulling action. Where a downshift is a push or downward action.
I found on my first time test drive that the paddle system felt completely backwards... I kept wanting to naturally downshift, when I wanted to upshift. (pulling the paddle on an accelerate felt natural).

My friends reaction was "You'll get used to it"... but it's all computer controlled right? So I shouldn't have to... so my question: Is it configurable that you can flip the Up/Down shift on the paddle system?

I want pushing with my thumbs to be a down shift, and pulling to be an upshift.
Do a search, someone has a wiring change that reverses shift.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt O
Do a search, someone has a wiring change that reverses shift.
I also saw it, I believe that he had it to where you up shifted with one and downshifted with the other. (Like most Euro paddle-shift cars) But, you can also reverse them both...Good luck!
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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From a previous post by East Coast Supercharging (A forum vendor):


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The first A6 I drove I was really dissappointed in the way the paddle was set up. If anything the car should upshift when you pull back, not push foward. We have taken a stock GM shifter module and modified the inside so the right side of the wheel upshifts and the left side of the wheel downshifts. This is how a real paddle shift car should work, just like the F1 cars. I was just driving one that we did here in house and its actually a lot more fun to drive. We seperated the upshift and downshift functions to either side. The right side will upshift whether you pull OR push the paddle and the left will downshift the car. I am in the middle of writing instructions for the install and these should start shipping next week. The install takes less then 15 minutes.

Cost will be $199 shipped to the continental US..

any questions, feel free to call us.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jmorgan3235


I also saw it, I believe that he had it to where you up shifted with one and downshifted with the other. (Like most Euro paddle-shift cars) But, you can also reverse them both...Good luck!
I posted on this topic some time ago...link below. WCC has F1 style paddle shift modules but no one on the forum was familiar with them.

Rich

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1752736
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoobie
Been a long time vette lover, looking at getting my first one.

I'm an avid believer that an automatic on a sports car, is just a crime.
I'd have to agree 100%. I won't ever have a problem with how the paddle shift works or whether it's intuitive or not. I take that back. If I were to become too old or weak to operate the manual clutch and shift level I suppose I might go with an automatic. My thumbs would probably still work OK if I could press the gas pedal.

I've always believed that most of the people who buy auto Corvettes are not performance minded at all. I've got a neighbor who drives an auto C5. It's a grocery getter and all around status ride for her. Manual trans? No reason for her.

I find that the 6 speed is as pleasantly intuitive as I could want.

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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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the paddle shift system IS the future....some folks still adamant about the the old stick clutch system,which is fine,but really this is the system to have, and i suspect a version will be adapted to future
super vettes. my odd thing is using my left thumb/paddle shifter,can't adapt to doing that...
....just a great feature WHEN you want to use it
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I agree it is counterintuitive, I would also expect to push to shift down and vice versa.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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I kind of like the push forward paddle. Just like hitting the nitrous switch on my 71 Boss 351 Mustang. The vette is still quicker though!
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by silver-surfer
I kind of like the push forward paddle. Just like hitting the nitrous switch on my 71 Boss 351 Mustang. The vette is still quicker though!
It always seemed intuitive to me.
You want to go faster forward? Push forward. My years with a motorcycle did not transfer at all to driving a car. For instance, I don't lean into curves
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I love the paddle shifter. My main use of it is to acclerate to just a bit below redline in first gear when leaving a traffic light. Its the one way to somewhat utilize the power of the vette in daily driving without breaking the traffic law
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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I am always amused at people who gauge their manhood or performance ability with their ability to drive a manual. This is something any 14 year old can learn to do in a short period of time with no problems at all.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TBIRD57
the paddle shift system IS the future....some folks still adamant about the the old stick clutch system,which is fine,but really this is the system to have, and i suspect a version will be adapted to future
super vettes. my odd thing is using my left thumb/paddle shifter,can't adapt to doing that...
....just a great feature WHEN you want to use it
A proper dual clutch, or sequential manual may be the future. A torque converted slushbox with a gear selector on the steering wheel like the one found in the Vette is by no means the future of anything
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Originally Posted by Matt O
Do a search, someone has a wiring change that reverses shift.
I also have a way to modify the shift direction. Check the link in my sig.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Hmmm... I think I like this config even better. Just swap the right side to give me the intuitive action I want with 1 hand. And have an F1 setup so that I can up / downshift with just pull actions with both hands.

And yes, I do agree... this is the future

Thanks!!
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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I have the A6 and Manual sport mode is the only way I drive it I find it to be just fine on the track or on the road
The only draw back to the A6 is that it eat's up around 10-15 RWHP The A6 is not just for old farts.........
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad*Max
I agree it is counterintuitive, I would also expect to push to shift down and vice versa.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OregonC6
I've always believed that most of the people who buy auto Corvettes are not performance minded at all.
Speaking for some of the performance minded auto owners, I'd just like to say, I grew up driving/racing sports cars. I have yet to drive an american V8 powered vehicle that I "enjoy" shifting. The sports car feel is just not there. To me, no Corvette transmission has been perfect. So I decided I'd rather have a car I can take for a relaxing Sunday drive, get stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic Monday-Friday, and then race at the track on Saturdays. The paddle wins hands down and I never miss a shift during a race. As for auto driveline losses, they can all be overcome to make it an even race with a stick. Personally, I don't need to row the gears to prove my manhood or to win races.
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