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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Yesterday as I was installing wheel locks on each wheel. The keyed lock nut felt heavier than the wheel nut I had just taken off. We have a fairly accurate digital kitchen scale so I weighed both. The keyed nut was about 25 grams heavier than the one that had been removed.

It would seem to me this is not a big deal at 60 mph, but what about at the higher speeds the Corvette is capable of reaching. Has anyone ever noticed a wheel balance problem after installing wheel locks?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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I use lug locks and haven't noticed any issues, but am interested in hearing opinions from the experts...




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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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While I am not an expert, the added weight is close to the axel where mathematically it has a small effect. 25 grams (.88 Oz) out on the rim might very well be noticeable.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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As said before because it's so close to the center of rotation you won't feel it. But for a better system check out this full set of 20 locking lugs.

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/GOR71604N.htm

For the vette it's part #71633N. All the same weight and a thief has to deal with 5 per wheel.

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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I always mount my wheel locks opposite the valve stem and tire pressure sensor. In my mind to offset the different weights. I know, call me crazy

I think on my prior Porsche they were specific where to mount the wheel lock and cover for the same reason.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Honestly, it shouldn't matter.


But to be brutally honest? Wheel locks are only an inconvenience to the owner, dealers, and the tire store guys. A thief coming after your wheels will be gone in 5 minutes with all 4 wheels and leave your locking lug nuts on the curb for you to use again. IMHO, they are a waste of time and effort.


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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
...A thief coming after your wheels will be gone in 5 minutes with all 4 wheels and leave your locking lug nuts on the curb for you to use again... Elmer
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Honestly, it shouldn't matter.


But to be brutally honest? Wheel locks are only an inconvenience to the owner, dealers, and the tire store guys. A thief coming after your wheels will be gone in 5 minutes with all 4 wheels and leave your locking lug nuts on the curb for you to use again. IMHO, they are a waste of time and effort.


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Lost my key to McGard set and tire shop took it off faster than if I had a key.
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Back at ya. Just a plain fact of life there guy. Locking lug nuts are for YOUR peace of mind. They sure don't stop thieves.

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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Honestly, it shouldn't matter.


But to be brutally honest? Wheel locks are only an inconvenience to the owner, dealers, and the tire store guys. A thief coming after your wheels will be gone in 5 minutes with all 4 wheels and leave your locking lug nuts on the curb for you to use again. IMHO, they are a waste of time and effort.


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Please no flames but I have to ask this question. How does the "average" thief get the wheel locks off so easily? Thinking of installing some locking lugs but if they aren't a deterrent may as well not bother. I do think its nice that they are considerate enough to leave the locking lugs.
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Please no flames but I have to ask this question. How does the "average" thief get the wheel locks off so easily? Thinking of installing some locking lugs but if they aren't a deterrent may as well not bother. I do think its nice that they are considerate enough to leave the locking lugs.

They can have their own set of "keys" or an old set of sockets. The sockets are placed over the locking lug nuts and hit with a heavy hammer and jammed in place. They then connect a ratchet drive and spin off the locking lug nut.

Done.

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Originally Posted by wudturner
Yesterday as I was installing wheel locks on each wheel. The keyed lock nut felt heavier than the wheel nut I had just taken off. We have a fairly accurate digital kitchen scale so I weighed both. The keyed nut was about 25 grams heavier than the one that had been removed.

It would seem to me this is not a big deal at 60 mph, but what about at the higher speeds the Corvette is capable of reaching. Has anyone ever noticed a wheel balance problem after installing wheel locks?
How would installing a lug lock on the wheel stud affect the balance of the wheel. you are not putting it on the wheel it self. just asking
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the responses. I've learned more from the responses than I thought would. This forum is a great resource.
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Originally Posted by vette1963
How would installing a lug lock on the wheel stud affect the balance of the wheel. you are not putting it on the wheel it self. just asking
I think you can have a balance problem in the fact that everything is sized the same throughout the hub. If you put weight on the hub that is spun it will cause a wobble. The closer to the center the less the effect but it will be out of balance. You would experience the same effect if you were to remove a lug nut and drive fast. The wheel/hub would be out of balance. Well, that's my theory at least!
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
They can have their own set of "keys" or an old set of sockets. The sockets are placed over the locking lug nuts and hit with a heavy hammer and jammed in place. They then connect a ratchet drive and spin off the locking lug nut. Elmer
Obviously the *professional* thief is better equipped than the junkie looking for a quick buck to get a fix. All over-the-counter anti-theft products address the later, but IMO everything I do to stop the joy riders / amateur thieves the better.

I am also ridiculed for using the club, however last summer the heavily alarmed Mustang parked next to me was stolen and my Vette wasn't. I attribute it to visual presence of the club. Those lock lugs just may be the difference of my wheels being there tomorrow morning
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
They can have their own set of "keys" or an old set of sockets. The sockets are placed over the locking lug nuts and hit with a heavy hammer and jammed in place. They then connect a ratchet drive and spin off the locking lug nut.

Done.

Elmer
Yeah, that's exactly how a dealer removed my McGuard lock. However, for the money it's does help keep the amateur thief away from your wheels. Nothing will stop a Pro.

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A number of people have had their wheels stolen in their driveway. The last thing a thief wants to do is make noise. With five Gorilla locks on each wheel don't you think they would think twice about driving the socket on with a heavy hammer 20 times. They won't stop everyone but to say they are useless is just wrong.
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