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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
Unfortunately every Corvette model year seems to have its quirks...
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Seems like all those things are mentioned pretty frequently with the 05-07's as well.........My '08 is perfect and I've been a GM hater most of my life....
Go figure. Guess they were trying to win me over...
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Originally Posted by beltfed21
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
My sensing too!
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Originally Posted by beltfed21
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
Doesn't seem any higher than the past couple years I've been on the list (and I'd be senstive to it, as I have an '08). There have certainly been more than the usual number of non-'08 posters trying to make something out of nothing, continually crying "junk!", but the facts don't seem to be supporting the (unsupported) assertions.

FWIW, zero defects on my 1 mo. old 'vert.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by beltfed21
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beltfed21
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
It sure does seem like it, doesn't it? You never know where minor cutbacks in assembly details or QC take place to save a few pennies as a model run continues. My '06 and '07 Vettes have been flawless, but I don't think I'd consider an '08. The next Vette I'd be interested in would be a ZR1, but not in it's first model year.

I really think the majority of C6 Corvette owners experience little or no problems with their cars, however. People mostly post when they have issues, not as nearly as much when their cars are perfect.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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My background is in process engineering and quality control in high tech electronics and high precision mechanical assemblies including some considerable time doing statistical analysis and research. Thus my comments:

Information about defects we get on this or any forum may be interesting, informative, and useful. However, it can't be applied to all C6s of any given year. This is because there is no consistent random sampling methodology used to gather the reports.

Given the shortcoming defect reports could be, in fact, isolated and be present on only a very few cars. However, it's just as likely that reports of defects point to lots of defective cars....or anywhere in between these two extremes. There is simply no way to know whether there are few or many such defects among ALL C6s.

The manufacturer alone would know the true extent of defects among all the cars produced from warranty reports. I am sure that this information is "mined" thoroughly by all car manufacturers.

Actually, given the greater interest and knowledge of owners who participate in sites like this one, it is possible that defects are actually OVER reported here. I use defect information heard here as interesting but basically unknown in extent. Clearly, some reported defects are a big deal and REAL such as the flying roof.

But, whether failing valve springs on the LS7 are isolated events or common is something that I don't think can be determined from forum reports. They have actually taken place but how often is unknown. Only GM knows for sure.

Plus, you know, the general kind of defects that were in the 05s or 06s or 07s are similar or identical to those being reported in 08s. Some years have novel problems but mostly I think things like clutch issues and rear end clutch pack problems just keep recurring. This, in itself, is worrisome since it indicates a potential unwillingness on the part of the mfg. to finally fix some things.

just my two cents worth

all cars have bugs to be worked out, I think the vette is pretty good but no more perfect than any other car or complex machine can be.....it's all statistics. No matter how hard you try in manufacturing there is always a normal distribution around the quality target....and that means there will always be defects. Today, with the internet , there is just a huge amount of communication among owners than in the past....and nearly real time communication at that.

In other words, random sample or not, we know a lot more today about what's up with the cars than ever in the past.
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Originally Posted by mneblett
Doesn't seem any higher than the past couple years I've been on the list (and I'd be senstive to it, as I have an '08). There have certainly been more than the usual number of non-'08 posters trying to make something out of nothing, continually crying "junk!", but the facts don't seem to be supporting the (unsupported) assertions.

FWIW, zero defects on my 1 mo. old 'vert.
Give it time....
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Roof rattle tops it in my book...then again, that's been all removable top Vettes
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It's the nature of the beast. Same same every generation. Only alternative is to buy a Bentley.
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Give it time....
Awwwww....sounds like someone has the blues about their precious JSB gift from God.

Whatever happened to this happy guy:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1825029

Cheer up...it's almost Christmas.
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Originally Posted by beltfed21
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more QC problems showing up here on the Forum for 08 Vettes (as compared to 07's)? Everything from interior, top, wheels, paint, rear ends, trany's, etc.

Just an observation.
It does seem so with the posts which are identifying quality control problems with the 08s.

I would think that the problems would be to the engine as it is a new LS3, but the fit and finish should have been greatly improved but it doesn't seem that way.

My 06 no problems at all in the fit and finish and drive train except for that one glitch I had with the paddle shifters.

I also agree that if you want a high quality control vehicle then you need to buy a Bentley.
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It is your imaginiation. The '08s have the same crappy quality control as the previous years.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:52 AM
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What problems? My 08 has had zero problems and zero defects of any kind. I am totally pleased with the car.
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Originally Posted by VETTE-NV
Awwwww....sounds like someone has the blues about their precious JSB gift from God.

Whatever happened to this happy guy:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1825029

Cheer up...it's almost Christmas.
Just a hunch but my guess is there were no papa smurfs under the Christmas tree.
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Originally Posted by djfullshred
It is your imaginiation. The '08s have the same crappy quality control as the previous years.
Its nothing new for Corvette. I have owned 20 of them. I think its more GM in general. They have really slipped hard.
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Maybe the labor problems have had their consequences after all? *shrugs*
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Did they ever fix the rear diff. chatter for 08? Im going in for the 3rd time on my 06.
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The threads on any forum are not an accurate way to judge QC. A true systemic problem will eventually be noticed, such as the column lock problem in the C5. I have no doubt that this forum was the main reason GM was forced to acknowledge that problem.
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