Well stated and I agree 100%.
Why are so many 'verts automatic ??
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Why are so many 'verts automatic ??
Damm, I was looking for a 2007 vert but they are almost all automatic !! 80% or more !
I guess this means 'vert drivers prefer automatic....does this mean if I order a manual 'vert I'll have a harder time to sell it ??
I guess this means 'vert drivers prefer automatic....does this mean if I order a manual 'vert I'll have a harder time to sell it ??
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FWIW in my area it appears the 6spd manual sells better on the used car market. At car shows it appears that most people that make a comment about what tranny you have seem to like manuals.
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Look at the production figures. About 65% of coupes and 75% of verts are produced with automatic transmissions in 2007. So, it stands to reason that there would be a lot more A6s than M6s when you're looking around.
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Even if there are 75% Automatics out there, that still leaves A lot of manual transmisson Vettes for sale. It's not like our cars are limited numbered rare exotics or anything. I bet I could find hundreds for sale right now if I looked.
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Perhaps it is because someone who buys a coupe may be more focused on the performance aspects of a Corvette and wants a manual tranny. The vert driver may be more focused on overall driving pleasure and wants an automatic.
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It actually stands to reason. If you look at the build numbers for C6's Automatics have led the field over manuals for the three model years running so far. Look for the final 2008 build numbers to follow suit.
2005 C6 6 speed manual 14,992 or 40.1% vs. 4 speed auto 22,380 or 59.9%
2006 C6 6 speed manual 14,927 or 43.9% vs. 6 speed automatic 19,094 or 56.1
2007 C6 6 speed manual 18,139 or 44.7% vs. 6 speed automatic 22,422 or 55.3
2005 C6 6 speed manual 14,992 or 40.1% vs. 4 speed auto 22,380 or 59.9%
2006 C6 6 speed manual 14,927 or 43.9% vs. 6 speed automatic 19,094 or 56.1
2007 C6 6 speed manual 18,139 or 44.7% vs. 6 speed automatic 22,422 or 55.3
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It's a trend throughout the entire auto segment - many more automatics and less manual transmissions. Some manufacturers (I know Audi for one) will soon no longer import some models to the US with certain powertrain configurations with a manual. Manufacturers make or import what sells the best - it's all marketing for mainstream vehicles (you can determine whether a C6 is mainstream or not).
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the reason most dealerships equip their stock Vettes with most of all the toys is simple....the higher the MSRP the greater the profit margin possibilities or the greater discount they can offer.....a 1lt has a difference of about $3200 from invoice to MSRP whereas the loaded 4lt with all the toys has a difference of about $6000 from invoice to MSRP....so the dealers would rather have the potential for greater profits....not that anyone on this list would let a dealer make more than a couple hundred bucks on a new Vette deal....hence the declining resale/trade values...its amazing how a new 2008 Vette with a MSRP of $59000 can become worth less than $45000 as soon as you drive it off the lot....my 2007 Vert 3lt with all the toys stickeredd $62200, I paid way less as I was the dealer and got GMS pricing, then I added about $3000 worth of extras...I traded it a year later with 6060 miles for $47000 for a 2008 Coupe....love the coupe and the LS3 more than I ever did the Vert.....its only money.
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It actually stands to reason. If you look at the build numbers for C6's Automatics have led the field over manuals for the three model years running so far. Look for the final 2008 build numbers to follow suit.
2005 C6 6 speed manual 14,992 or 40.1% vs. 4 speed auto 22,380 or 59.9%
2006 C6 6 speed manual 14,927 or 43.9% vs. 6 speed automatic 19,094 or 56.1
2007 C6 6 speed manual 18,139 or 44.7% vs. 6 speed automatic 22,422 or 55.3
2005 C6 6 speed manual 14,992 or 40.1% vs. 4 speed auto 22,380 or 59.9%
2006 C6 6 speed manual 14,927 or 43.9% vs. 6 speed automatic 19,094 or 56.1
2007 C6 6 speed manual 18,139 or 44.7% vs. 6 speed automatic 22,422 or 55.3
Question? Do you know if the Z06 numbers are included in the above 2006 and 2007 stats for the manual?
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Yes, I compiled these numbers. The manuals include the MM6 manual transmission and the MZ6 Z51 manual transmission along with the Z06 production. I was just out to compare all manual transmission production with all automatic transmission production.
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September 09 Automobile Magazine. 60 to 70 % of Vettes are sold as auto's according to GM. Yes, it will without any doubt hurt the re-sale value of your car. That is the truth as hard as it may be for some to swallow. Some do not care about potential re-sale. But, that was your question correct?
Note: As roads become more congested with more and more vehicles, and as the population grows our streets and roads will become harder to navigate. Many urban cities have a thing called rush hour. Nobody (sane) wants to get stuck on a major expressway or highway with a stick during rush hour. This accounts as one of several reasons automatics outsell manual transmissions. Not to mention according to GM the very slight performance edge you get from a manual is just that. Slight and minimal.
Note: As roads become more congested with more and more vehicles, and as the population grows our streets and roads will become harder to navigate. Many urban cities have a thing called rush hour. Nobody (sane) wants to get stuck on a major expressway or highway with a stick during rush hour. This accounts as one of several reasons automatics outsell manual transmissions. Not to mention according to GM the very slight performance edge you get from a manual is just that. Slight and minimal.
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Without a doubt having the manual may make it harder to sell the car - you may have to wait longer for a buyer - but I don't know that it would hurt resale value... unless you were in a hurry to sell it.
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September 09 Automobile Magazine. 60 to 70 % of Vettes are sold as auto's according to GM. Yes, it will without any doubt hurt the re-sale value of your car. That is the truth as hard as it may be for some to swallow. Some do not care about potential re-sale. But, that was your question correct?
Note: As roads become more congested with more and more vehicles, and as the population grows our streets and roads will become harder to navigate. Many urban cities have a thing called rush hour. Nobody (sane) wants to get stuck on a major expressway or highway with a stick during rush hour. This accounts as one of several reasons automatics outsell manual transmissions. Not to mention according to GM the very slight performance edge you get from a manual is just that. Slight and minimal.
Note: As roads become more congested with more and more vehicles, and as the population grows our streets and roads will become harder to navigate. Many urban cities have a thing called rush hour. Nobody (sane) wants to get stuck on a major expressway or highway with a stick during rush hour. This accounts as one of several reasons automatics outsell manual transmissions. Not to mention according to GM the very slight performance edge you get from a manual is just that. Slight and minimal.
Dealers have the best idea of what sells for their demographic and if having automatics in stock is what is going to sell, that is what they are going to order. Now, I prefer a manual transmission Corvette so yes, it would not help me purchase if it were an automatic but as I indicated 52-55% of every Corvette that rolls off the line is an automatic, that isn't happening as an accident, they are being ordered that way.
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Here's a different perspective - when I was looking I considered ONLY a manual transmission. Automatic was a deal breaker for me.
You just have to find that one right person..................and right now that is YOU. Can't play life too much like a chess game - there's enough to worry about already.
You just have to find that one right person..................and right now that is YOU. Can't play life too much like a chess game - there's enough to worry about already.
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I think they make a lot of autos because the majority of sales have shown that that is what the customers want. Most of us do live in high traffic areas and so the Auto is very tempting over constantly shifting in traffic. When I lived in the Los Angeles area I kept thinking I should have bought an automatic.
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Manual Vs. Auto should not effect resale value. The cars are produced in numbers to accomodate demand, and that demand changes only a little from year to year. The used car buyers demands should mimic the new car buyers demands.
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I think a look a the demographics would be in order. First, vert owners tend to skew older, I would imagine (at least older than a coupe buyer). Older buyers prefer automatics. Second, many of the buyers of Vettes use them as GT cars rather than track mules, so autos would be a bigger seller than a manual tranny. Frankly, a manual vert is tough to find because of the demographics - dealers order what a majority of their customers want. Having a manual would, therefore, probably hurt your resale down the road unless you can locate a population of buyers that HAVE to have a manual tranny.