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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by emt4fire1951
Nope, about 12" apart. Like I said, I guess it is what it is. I will not void my warrenty. Now if I had 20K on the tires they would be history. It's sort of like going to a buffet. Even if your not that hungrey youve just got to get your money's worth. LOL
Well, my bigger question is still... "Why did they WARRANTEE it at ALL?" I'd think that if 2 pucntures voids your warrantee, the answer would be... "You're out of luck pal, you need a new tire, and you have to pay."

Why would they EVER feel the need to warrantee road hazzards? Hey, for your sake, sure, I'm glad they did. But, for us in the rest of the world that had to pick up the bill.....
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Well, my bigger question is still... "Why did they WARRANTEE it at ALL?" I'd think that if 2 pucntures voids your warrantee, the answer would be... "You're out of luck pal, you need a new tire, and you have to pay."

Why would they EVER feel the need to warrantee road hazzards? Hey, for your sake, sure, I'm glad they did. But, for us in the rest of the world that had to pick up the bill.....
For Dogs sake what are you talking about? Are you so ill informed that you don't know that GOODYEAR friggin warrantys these tires? why are you so damn pissy? I NEVER said that 2 nails void my warranty. I said having it patched twice voids it. 2 holes quallifies me for a replacement tire which I have a right to given the written warranty that GOODYEAR gave me when I bought my 08!!!!! I didn't get anything special or have connections that some poor project dweller wouldn't have I have the SAME warrenty anyone else has that bought a new vette. Damn get a life boy!
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Can't they patch the tire? They CAN be patched if the holes are just holes and not in the sidewall.

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I had a bolt near the center of the rear runflat after just 1200 miles. A local Goodyear dealer which handles runflats patched it for $40. It leaked. I returned and they patched it properly for free with my assurance that I would use them for the full set when I am ready to replace them. It seems like your dealer could do better.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by emt4fire1951
For Dogs sake what are you talking about? Are you so ill informed that you don't know that GOODYEAR friggin warrantys these tires? why are you so damn pissy? I NEVER said that 2 nails void my warranty. I said having it patched twice voids it. 2 holes quallifies me for a replacement tire which I have a right to given the written warranty that GOODYEAR gave me when I bought my 08!!!!! I didn't get anything special or have connections that some poor project dweller wouldn't have I have the SAME warrenty anyone else has that bought a new vette. Damn get a life boy!
Well, nice attitude, pal.

So, I guess that every 1500 miles, I'll just go stick 2 nails in each of my tires, then make everyone else in the world pick up the bill. Wow, how great.

No wonder these tires are so expensive, if GoodYear is WARRANTEEING tires every time people run over more than 1 nail.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by emt4fire1951
I picked up the tire from my GY dealer and reinstalled on Vette. there she sits in garage - 55,000 dollar car that's just a paper weight! why - BECAUSE GOODYEAR HEDGED THEIR BETS AND UNDERPRODUCED OUR TIRES.

Directly because of them I have an unseable investment. Luckly I have enough cars to drive so that's not an issue. Yes I could have another dealer patch the tire and it in all probabillity would be fine. But why should I void my warranty? that would be stupid on MY part. I'm so pi##ed right now, not at Chevy but a Goodyear. Ok I vented.
Is the tire losing so much air that you can't drive on it? On three different occasions i've had nails or bolts stuck in C5 and C6 runflats where I drove for weeks to months with a slow leak, and would occasionally put air in the tire. It was fine.

Check around. When I got new tires they were backordered through tirerack and the like, I went to my local tire shop and the guy had a set of four there in four days by checking with several distributers.

Good thing to know you have a stable of 'investments' and you're just bitching for the sake of bitching.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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I'm bitching because I have a right to bitch about a compay that fails it's customers. I'm bitching because I did check all local shops within a 100 mile radius and there are no tires available. I'm bitching because someone in a couple of posts to me got bitchey to me about how I really don't deserve the replacement tires and that "everyone else pays for my replacements" - I didn't write the warranty nor did I go and stick the nails in my tire. I am simply following my written warranty that was given to me by Goodyear through Chevrolet. I was bitching because I have a car sitting unused because of Goodyear, not me. And rockethead7, what your proposing that you go and stick nails i your tires would be unethical and dishonest. Talk about bitching, go back and reread your posts. As far as my "stable of investments" you sound a little resentful. Let me tell you boy, I've worked hard for everything I've got. I m not rich nor do I go around flaunting things. Some say I spent my money foolishly on the couple of cars and motorcycles we have - bottom line its my money. I have fun with what i've got. Hell, isn't that why we are all here in this forum? A sane person wouldn't spend what we have on a car like ours that goes faster than the posted speed limit, can't haul the kids to school, expensive to insure, requires a lot of attention to keep the shine and is basically useless as a family vehicle.
To get back to my original post, I still think GY needs to step up and maintain what THEY warranty. And no I won't get the tire patched and loose the warranty and no I cant find a replacement so I will wait for the new tire. Yes the tire holds air for a couple of days so that's not a problem other that this is my wifes daily drive so I would rather she used the Mustang.
Nuff said!
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by emt4fire1951
I'm bitching because I have a right to bitch about a compay that fails it's customers. I'm bitching because I did check all local shops within a 100 mile radius and there are no tires available. I'm bitching because someone in a couple of posts to me got bitchey to me about how I really don't deserve the replacement tires and that "everyone else pays for my replacements" - I didn't write the warranty nor did I go and stick the nails in my tire. I am simply following my written warranty that was given to me by Goodyear through Chevrolet. I was bitching because I have a car sitting unused because of Goodyear, not me. And rockethead7, what your proposing that you go and stick nails i your tires would be unethical and dishonest. Talk about bitching, go back and reread your posts. As far as my "stable of investments" you sound a little resentful. Let me tell you boy, I've worked hard for everything I've got. I m not rich nor do I go around flaunting things. Some say I spent my money foolishly on the couple of cars and motorcycles we have - bottom line its my money. I have fun with what i've got. Hell, isn't that why we are all here in this forum? A sane person wouldn't spend what we have on a car like ours that goes faster than the posted speed limit, can't haul the kids to school, expensive to insure, requires a lot of attention to keep the shine and is basically useless as a family vehicle.
To get back to my original post, I still think GY needs to step up and maintain what THEY warranty. And no I won't get the tire patched and loose the warranty and no I cant find a replacement so I will wait for the new tire. Yes the tire holds air for a couple of days so that's not a problem other that this is my wifes daily drive so I would rather she used the Mustang.
Nuff said!

a) I'd never REALLY stick nails in my own tires. That was sarcasm. I am far too honest to ever cheat a company like that.

b) I'm not saying YOU'RE dishonest... I'm saying your dealer is. Indeed, I'd need a hell of a lot of convincing before I'd EVER believe that it's GoodYear's company policy to replace tires for free under "warrantee" when they hit two nails. I believe your dealer is probably faking the reason for the "warrantee" repair, and is telling GoodYear something else happened to the tire (a tire FAILURE). Because, let's face reality here... is it GoodYear's FAULT your tire needs to be replaced? Did your tire FAIL due to a manufacturing problem? Or, did you hit some road hazzards (i.e. nails), which are completely different than a WARRANTEE repair? I think we all know the answer.

c) Yes, I understand that you say that 2 nails voids your warrantee, and now you need a new tire because of it, but, still, how is that GoodYear's fault? I mean, rolling over police tire spikes will also void your warrantee, and now you need new tires... that doesn't mean GoodYear should replace them for free. If some angry neighbor slashes your tires, that'll void your warrantee, and now you need new tires, but how is that GoodYear's fault? Slamming your Corvette into a brick wall at 80mph will void your GM warrantee too, but that doesn't mean that GM should give you a new car just because you did damage to it, due to something that was completely not their fault. LOTS AND LOTS of things can cause you to need new tires, and void your warrantee... but, unless those things are CAUSED by GoodYear, I fail to see why they should pay for them? WARRANTEE is for stuff that *IS* their fault... parts that fail prematurely... things that don't work as designed... problems that came from something that wasn't manufactured correctly... etc. Free WARRANTEE repairs do NOT include "hitting two nails" - even though that might void your warrantee. Your tire worked EXACTLY as it was designed to work... and you happened to hit two road hazzards. How do you figure that GY should pay for that? If I'm wrong about this, and it IS GoodYear's company policy to replace tires for free when they hit road hazzards that void the warrantee, then I have a REAL BEEF with them, because this is obviously the reason these tires are so damned expensive... they keep giving them away for free. (Though, I'd be hard pressed to believe that I'm wrong on this.)

d) Indeed, any time Person A gets something for free, it's because Persons B C D E F G H... all paid more. If you don't think that the price of the tires doesn't factor in all of the warrantee replacements, you live in la la land. Therefore EVERYONE ELSE *IS* paying for your free tire. If I owned that GoodYear shop, I'd never have written it up as a warrantee repair. I'd do my part to protect Persons B C D E F G H... from needing to PAY for Person A to get a new tire, when Person A was the guy who ran over two nails.

e) I know you weren't addressing me, you were addressing that other guy... but your connotation of calling someone "boy" was pretty rude.

f) You need to learn to write in English.

Given that you got a free tire, which had two nail holes (not GoodYear's fault, and should NEVER have been covered under warrantee), I hardly think you have ANY right to bitch, even though indeed it is frustrating that the supply was a problem... but hey, some people just complain, I guess.

If I was in your shoes, first of all, I wouldn't have accepted free work without contacting GoodYear's district management to make sure that indeed it IS their policy to replace tires for free after ***I*** hit nails. I'd accept the free tire if that was indeed their policy, because part of the money I paid for the tire/car in the first place was for that policy. But, if that ISN'T the policy, I'd report the dealer for offering to do "warrantee" repairs for free. Jackass dealers that try to charge the factory for illegitimate claims like this one are the reason that all of the rest of us are paying tooooooo much for tires.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Poor GY availability has been reported in the past.

I took precautions this winter and purchased a spare set of slightly used wheels and tires (on the forum) in order to have a spare set on hand and as replacement when mine wear out.

Once I replace them I'll always buy and keep another spare set in the garage.

You have to be somewhat self reliant when you know about an issue to protect drivability during the shorter driving season up north. I'd hate to waste a whole month in the summer without the car due to a flat.

Doesn't fix the OPs problem, or justify GYs stock situation but can save others the pain of waiting for a tire.
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I believe the back order issue is correct. I just spent 2 weeks looking for tires in South Florida. I found a set of rear tires and waiting on the fronts. I had a set of GY supercar and just had to settle for a set of GY F1's. I found outr there are 2 types of F1's... My luck I got the lower grade ones. Dropped the hammer at 65 mph and found the tires spinning and I don't have any mods but a Corsa exhaust.
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Well, my bigger question is still... "Why did they WARRANTEE it at ALL?" I'd think that if 2 pucntures voids your warrantee, the answer would be... "You're out of luck pal, you need a new tire, and you have to pay."

Why would they EVER feel the need to warrantee road hazzards? Hey, for your sake, sure, I'm glad they did. But, for us in the rest of the world that had to pick up the bill.....

rockethead7, you are completely wrong. The facts are that the Goodyear run flats on our Corvettes do come with a road hazard warranty. That warranty states:

1. FREE REPLACEMENT
Any new Goodyear Run-Flat EMT tire removed from service
due to a covered warranty condition or rendered not
repairable due to a road hazard injury
during the first 2/32"
treadwear or 12 months from date of purchase, whichever
occurs first, will be replaced at no charge. Mounting and
balancing are included.
Further, Goodyear repair limits for speed rated tires (which includes our run flats) states:

PUNCTURE REPAIR LIMITS
TIRE SPEED...............MAX. NUMBER...........MAX REPAIR
(SPEED SYMBOL)................................. ....DIAMETER
130 mph and over ...........1......................1/4 in. (6mm)
(H, V, Z)
Therefore, two nail holes (which are road hazards) render the tire not repairable.

Q.E.D.


P.S. You should seriously consider using a spell checker. Your short post contains 5 spelling errors.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
rockethead7, you are completely wrong. The facts are that the Goodyear run flats on our Corvettes do come with a road hazard warranty. That warranty states:



Further, Goodyear repair limits for speed rated tires (which includes our run flats) states:



Therefore, two nail holes (which are road hazards) render the tire not repairable.

Q.E.D.


P.S. You should seriously consider using a spell checker. Your short post contains 5 spelling errors.
WOW, I'm stunned. If this is true (I will take your word for it that this is accurate), then I'm really amazed (and yes, wrong).

I'm truly baffled about WHY GY would do this? As I said, *I* would never puncture my tires intentionally... but, what's to prevent others from doing that? (I have zero faith in the common man.) Free road hazzard warrantee, allowing a person to get free tires due to causes that have nothing to do with defective tires? Absolutely stunning.

Hence, as I also said in my other post, if GY *does* give such a policy, I have a real beef with GY for something like that. Indeed, that kind of ridiculous policy is a contributing factor in the price of the tire.

Anyway, I'm deeply sorry for any/all mistakes in warrantee/policy I made.

And, (edit) - no wonder there's a shortage of tires. With a ridiculous policy to REPLACE THEM FOR FREE for things that aren't their fault, undoubtedly they're being hit with a ton of claims... both fraudulent and legitimate. That's the stupidest policy I've ever heard of, and GY deserves to go out of business for doing something that dumb.

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