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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Just curious...

Now that BG is near the end of the 08 model year - What happens to all the orders for 08 that are sitting on event staus code 1100 where the dealer(s) don't have an allocation? Do they just get tossed and not build the cars, or does the factory eventually try to get them built?

It seems to me they would make every effort to build all orders, especially sold orders, allocations or not.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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I'm not certain, but I think the reason the dealer doesnt have allocations is because BG is already running full time building the orders that they DO have, if they had extra capacity, they would give out more allocations.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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I'm only 95% certain but I think the unused orders are returned to the dealers for possible conversion to new model year orders. I'm sure someone who does know for sure will come by and comment.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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I'm not certain, but I think the reason the dealer doesnt have allocations is because BG is already running full time building the orders that they DO have, if they had extra capacity, they would give out more allocations.
That's a good point, but do all dealer allocations get ordered?

That may be a dumb question, because if a dealer doesn't use all of his allocations, I would imagine it would hurt his future allocation total.
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Originally Posted by statman
That's a good point, but do all dealer allocations get ordered?

That may be a dumb question, because if a dealer doesn't use all of his allocations, I would imagine it would hurt his future allocation total.
Maybe so, but in the end, once BG is booked up, no more orders will be taken, it may be that's what happens, or it may be that the dealer w/ the orders at 1100 have used up their allocations for the year.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by statman
That's a good point, but do all dealer allocations get ordered?

That may be a dumb question, because if a dealer doesn't use all of his allocations, I would imagine it would hurt his future allocation total.
Poor planning by the dealer if he does lose his allocation. I'm sure the customer won't get an 09 for the same price as the 08 he ordered.
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Originally Posted by statman
That's a good point, but do all dealer allocations get ordered?

That may be a dumb question, because if a dealer doesn't use all of his allocations, I would imagine it would hurt his future allocation total.
Do all get ordered? No. And if they don't, one of two things happens: a dealer loses the allocation, another dealer gets it. And if the next dealer doesn't use it, it gets reallocated. If it's not used by the end of the model year production, guess what? It doesn't get produced. That's one reason why there's a variation in production run numbers, year to year.
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IM LOST.. I put in an order left the deposit 2 weeks ago and was told that the car would be here in 6 weeks tops... I call today and now Im told.. they dont have thier allocation.. WTH is an allocation... she tried to assure me that the order would get filled in the next 6 weeks but what does this mean for me.... sitting here waiting on a car?????

According to her the dealership is getting an allocation in the next week or so
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerGirl
IM LOST.. I put in an order left the deposit 2 weeks ago and was told that the car would be here in 6 weeks tops... I call today and now Im told.. they dont have thier allocation.. WTH is an allocation... she tried to assure me that the order would get filled in the next 6 weeks but what does this mean for me.... sitting here waiting on a car?????

According to her the dealership is getting an allocation in the next week or so
This week is the last week for '08 orders. I put my order in two weeks ago with the understanding it would be placed last week. Then last week GM decided to shut everything down to "upgrade" their computer system. No allocations were given last week. So now I'm just hoping my order goes in this week.
So for your question, as far as I know, if your dealer does not have allocation this week that's it. Your dealer has to have their allocation schedule today so if it were me, I would be there in person today asking to see their allocation in writing or on the computer. I wouldn't accept a verbal. JMO. Good luck.
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I gotta ask: you didn't buy it from a forum dealer, right? That's a problem in that it seems like you got a bum dealer. Live and learn.
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Ok so im trying to take deep breaths here... what does this mean to me.. I have already left money on the order .... if they DO NOT get the allocation this week then what happens??? Does my car get built or no.. they say have a nice day heres your money back?????
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Ok so im trying to take deep breaths here... what does this mean to me.. I have already left money on the order .... if they DO NOT get the allocation this week then what happens??? Does my car get built or no.. they say have a nice day heres your money back?????
You SHOULD get your deposit back, especially if they can't provide the product you ordered. But, we have heard of rare cases where people signed contracts that stipulated the deposit, in whole or in part, was not refundable.

If you have your heart set on an '08 I suggest you find out today if your dealer has allocation. If not or if they can't prove they do, then get your money back and get on the phone with the Forum dealers right away. I'm sure a few of them still have allocation spaces to fill. You could then arrange a courtesy delivery to your local dealer or do the Museum if that's what you intended. Again, good luck.
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To end the consternation, I'd say ask them (if they know) when is the last day to order an '08. I believe it's this month.

That said, if they don't have an allocation, chances are they're not getting one. If they did, they'd know it by now and would tell you that.

Which then means, do you want an '08, or an '09? Do you want what's already in inventory around the country (check: jeffhardy.com)? or do you want to order an '09 which will take until about the first week of July to be built? an '09 will most likely cost a little more, not absolute, but most likely.

If you want to stay local, sometimes you have to put up with the BS. And this is BS that you're getting from your dealer. As if you didn't know it...sorry about that.
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Originally Posted by RicK T
You SHOULD get your deposit back, especially if they can't provide the product you ordered. But, we have heard of rare cases where people signed contracts that stipulated the deposit, in whole or in part, was not refundable.

If you have your heart set on an '08 I suggest you find out today if your dealer has allocation. If not or if they can't prove they do, then get your money back and get on the phone with the Forum dealers right away. I'm sure a few of them still have allocation spaces to fill. You could then arrange a courtesy delivery to your local dealer or do the Museum if that's what you intended. Again, good luck.
so they should def know today if they will be getting it or not.. I have dealt with them before and I dont think they would mess with me.. never ordered a vette from them but... why would they string me along cause then they arent getting the money on the sale and im not getting the car? Seems odd to me that a dealer would do this.
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ok someone please decipher this for me and tell me if it sounds like

this is the email I just got from the dealer

Once a month we have something called a concensus which allows me to pick what I
will build over the next four weeks. I consensed for 4 (FOUR!) Corvettes the
last cycle. This means that each week they allocate me 1 or sometimes I have to
build all 4 at once. I definitely have an allocation so please don't worry.

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I'll let someone else explain what you wrote from the dealer. All I'm saying is, you put in an order 2 weeks ago. New '08 orders will only be taken, literally, for about a few more days. If you don't have an order number by now and a status event code that shows your order marching down the production schedule, I question what the dealer is talking about. I not only question it, I think it sounds like BS to me.

If I'm wrong, I surely hope I am. But if I'm not, they're just holding your money and hoping one of 2 things: either they'll come up with an allocation or that they can convert you to an '09 order.
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Originally Posted by AORoads
an '09 will most likely cost a little more, not absolute, but most likely.
Seems that I read here a couple months ago that the base on an '09 was increasing by $1500 over base of an '08
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Ive asked for the number by thursday or friday.. and I guess if they dont get it to me.. well Im looking for a new dealer
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Originally Posted by AORoads
I'll let someone else explain what you wrote from the dealer. All I'm saying is, you put in an order 2 weeks ago. New '08 orders will only be taken, literally, for about a few more days. If you don't have an order number by now and a status event code that shows your order marching down the production schedule, I question what the dealer is talking about.
OK, you just contradicted yourself. As you noted, orders can still be placed this Thurs, and this is the last time that an 08 can be ordered. Then you go on to say that if she doesn't have an order number/event code, this is BS. How can you have an order number/event code when the order hasn't been input yet?

I'm in the same boat. Mine was supposed to go in last week, but due to the "upgrade", it has to wait til this week. I'm using Tommy at MacMulkin, and I have no worries that the order will go in as planned.

SRG: if your dealer says they can do it this week, have some faith in them. No need to get worked up due to some misinformation here.

If, come Friday, they say it didn't go in... well, then you're in a different situation.
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ok the dealer has assured me that they have the allocation and they have the order number but they cant get into the GM system today to give it to me. I want to trust them so I guess Im going to wait it out a couple more days...

wish me luck

My last question is.. is there any way to check and see if a dealer actually does have allocation and then how will I know that its MY vette that is going to be built??
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