C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Feral Industries

Halltech Beehive installed !!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:05 PM
  #1  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default Halltech Beehive installed !!!!

Hi,
My beehive showed up today, it took longer to open the box than to install

The fit and finish is great, as is everything I have ever gotten from Jim

I'll be heading out for a test drive real soon, it's cooling off right now so I should get a good idea of how cool it keeps the intake

Here's a picture installed on my 08 LS3.

Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:10 PM
  #2  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default

You can open up the shroud several different ways. You can cut sections out but I decided to just disconnect the shroud down low and use a toggle bolt to push it back and create a small scoop effect down there. That way I can put it bacl to stock if I ever need too. There is a cool little video of the install on their website. It really is that easy to install.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:14 PM
  #3  
clydetrb's Avatar
clydetrb
Drifting
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,686
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by WGMARQ
You can open up the shroud several different ways. You can cut sections out but I decided to just disconnect the shroud down low and use a toggle bolt to push it back and create a small scoop effect down there. That way I can put it bacl to stock if I ever need too. There is a cool little video of the install on their website. It really is that easy to install.

Perfect
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:35 PM
  #4  
mracer's Avatar
mracer
Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 728
Likes: 92
Default

Your the guy I'm really looking forward to you posting your SOTP review of this mod. Make sure you go over to the mod section and post your review in the thread I have over there too. What vendor did you buy from?
Mike
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1566051634
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:48 PM
  #5  
danl72's Avatar
danl72
Race Director
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17,373
Likes: 6
From: Chatsworth California
Default

Very nice.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:01 PM
  #6  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by mracer
Your the guy I'm really looking forward to you posting your SOTP review of this mod. Make sure you go over to the mod section and post your review in the thread I have over there too. What vendor did you buy from?
Mike
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1566051634
Hi Mike

I just got back from my test ride and unless my SOTP meter needs some serious adjustments this combination will test out really well on a dyno

I then took the old turkey thermometer and cracked the hood open. I let it sit under the hood for about 3 minutes and the temp under the hood was 160+, I then took it outside to cool off and then slid it in under the beehive next to the Killer bee for 3 minutes, it never went over 110, it was probably much cooler in that compartment while driving !!! Just to make sure it had not cooled too much under the hood I checked that again and it was still over 160. I'm not an expert but I do know these things like colder air

If I had to do it all over again I would


Bill

Last edited by WGMARQ; Jun 25, 2008 at 09:05 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:04 PM
  #7  
dpigguy's Avatar
dpigguy
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,974
Likes: 148
From: Magnolia Texas
Default

Originally Posted by WGMARQ
Hi Mike

I just got back from my test ride and unless my SOTP meter needs some serious adjustments this combination will test out really well on a dyno

I then took the old turkey thermometer and cracked the hood open. I let it sit under the hood for about 3 minutes and the temp under the hood was 160+, I then took it outside too cool off and then slid it in under the beehive next to the Killer bee for 3 minutes, it never went over 110, it was probably much cooler in that compartment while driving !!! Just to make sure it had not cooled too much under the hood I checked that again and it was still over 160. I'm not an expert but I do know these things like colder air

If I had to do it all over again I would


Bill
Just curious - do you need to re-tune the engine with this install to prevent any unwanted MAF issues or the like? my '08 required some work to keep the sensor within range and that was just from airflow in the stock configuration.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:12 PM
  #8  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dpigguy
Just curious - do you need to re-tune the engine with this install to prevent any unwanted MAF issues or the like? my '08 required some work to keep the sensor within range and that was just from airflow in the stock configuration.
People who know much more than me will say that a tune with a CAI will get you the most bang for your money. I will probably do that after I add some headers in a few months. I have heard that the computer will adjust itself within a certain range to allow for air/fuel differences but I don't know how long that takes. I just went for a good run and it ran great, i found a nice empty stretch of road and really opened it up and it felt really strong up around the 5K to 6K RPM range

But I have no numbers to back it up other than the temp readings.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:17 PM
  #9  
dpigguy's Avatar
dpigguy
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,974
Likes: 148
From: Magnolia Texas
Default

Originally Posted by WGMARQ
People who know much more than me will say that a tune with a CAI will get you the most bang for your money. I will probably do that after I add some headers in a few months. I have heard that the computer will adjust itself within a certain range to allow for air/fuel differences but I don't know how long that takes. I just went for a good run and it ran great, i found a nice empty stretch of road and really opened it up and it felt really strong up around the 5K to 6K RPM range

But I have no numbers to back it up other than the temp readings.
Cool - will be interesting in hearing your longer term results. I may have to go this route down the road - thanks!
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:46 PM
  #10  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dpigguy
Cool - will be interesting in hearing your longer term results. I may have to go this route down the road - thanks!
Glad to help, if any LS3 owners are interested I did a little writeup on a simple little mod to the PVC line for the Killer Bee. It was just a couple bucks at ACE hardware and I think it gave it a much better finish look, kind of like the Z06 mod.


Not sure how to attach a Word Doc here?
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:24 PM
  #11  
Modshack's Avatar
Modshack
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,939
Likes: 448
From: CHOCOWINITY NC
Default

If you feed your new sealed box from the bottom with somehing like a Vette-Air you'll find it VERY effective at keeping temps down. I'm surprised Jim didn't recommend this as I know he is a fan. The IAT sensor at the MAF is the critical temp measurement and ultimately determines timing advance and therefore power. I have IAT temps up all the time on my Scangauge and mine runs right at ambient as long as the car is moving. You can't get any better than that.

My homemade box (been on 10 months or so predating the Beehive)


A Vette-Air. Simple install, Minimal cutting. Air force fed from the grill


Vette air installed showing cool air feed. Insulate to keep radiant heat out

Last edited by Modshack; Jun 25, 2008 at 10:48 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:35 PM
  #12  
WGMARQ's Avatar
WGMARQ
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Default

Looks great !!!

I didn't want to cut the shroud right now. I just knocked out the 2 plastic pins securing the shroud to the front end. I then used a 5 inch toggle bolt , with 2 toggles on it, from one of those holes already in the front end and pushed the shroud down and drilled a small whole in it and inserted the other end and set the toggles like a stand off on each end. It looks like a big scoop down there now
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:12 PM
  #13  
car2fast4you's Avatar
car2fast4you
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,248
Likes: 767
From: Lindenhurst, IL
Default

Hey WGMARQ & Modshack,

Both of your installations look great!!!

I have a question for both of you:
How does the air filter on the Killer Bee fit under the hood on your C6?

Mine seems to fit like Modshack's.
It BARELY fits under the hood.
In fact, the hood actually pushes it down onto the radiator shoud.

On WGMARQ's, it looks like the filter sits a much lower.


The reason why I'm asking this is because, based on how my air filter fits, I'm don't think that it will fit under the Beehive shroud.

I'd appreciate both of your comments.
Thanks!
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:23 PM
  #14  
Modshack's Avatar
Modshack
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,939
Likes: 448
From: CHOCOWINITY NC
Default

Originally Posted by car2fast4you
Hey WGMARQ & Modshack,

Mine seems to fit like Modshack's.
It BARELY fits under the hood.
In fact, the hood actually pushes it down onto the radiator shoud.

On WGMARQ's, it looks like the filter sits a much lower.


The reason why I'm asking this is because, based on how my air filter fits, I'm don't think that it will fit under the Beehive shroud.

I'd appreciate both of your comments.
Thanks!
Car2fAST.....I know when the first halltechs were offered for the LS3 Jim used the Z06 part which everyone thought was the same. It seems there was a slight variance in the length of the bridge between the Z and the LS3 part. I worked with Jim on this and he sent me a shorter bridge piece after he figured out what needed to be done. I took some pics and measurements for him of the original Z Intake I had. You can see from the pics that it used to really stick up due to being too long. Maybe you have a Z06 bridge. Pics are here:
http://public.fotki.com/ttschwing/co...tuff/halltech/
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:24 PM
  #15  
Halltech's Avatar
Halltech
Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 13,099
Likes: 672
From: Bristol, Tennessee
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by Modshack
If you feed your new sealed box from the bottom with somehing like a Vette-Air you'll find it VERY effective at keeping temps down. I'm surprised Jim didn't recommend this as I know he is a fan. The IAT sensor at the MAF is the critical temp measurement and ultimately determines timing advance and therefore power. I have IAT temps up all the time on my Scangauge and mine runs right at ambient as long as the car is moving. You can't get any better than that.

My homemade box (been on 10 months or so predating the Beehive)


A Vette-Air. Simple install, Minimal cutting. Air force fed from the grill


Vette air installed showing cool air feed. Insulate to keep radiant heat out
Always cool to bee first.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:26 PM
  #16  
Mike's LS3's Avatar
Mike's LS3
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,435
Likes: 874
From: Bay Area CA
Default

Originally Posted by WGMARQ
Looks great !!!

I didn't want to cut the shroud right now. I just knocked out the 2 plastic pins securing the shroud to the front end. I then used a 5 inch toggle bolt , with 2 toggles on it, from one of those holes already in the front end and pushed the shroud down and drilled a small whole in it and inserted the other end and set the toggles like a stand off on each end. It looks like a big scoop down there now
I have an 08 with the Halltech Killer Bee, and have been thinking of installing the Beehive shroud. Does the toggle bolt cold air work with Z51 optioned cars? I heard one of the oil coolers is in the way. I might have to opt for the vette air with a special barcket.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:29 PM
  #17  
Halltech's Avatar
Halltech
Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 13,099
Likes: 672
From: Bristol, Tennessee
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by Modshack
Car2fAST.....I know when the first halltechs were offered for the LS3 Jim used the Z06 part which everyone thought was the same. It seems there was a slight variance in the length of the bridge between the Z and the LS3 part. I worked with Jim on this and he sent me a shorter bridge piece after he figured out what needed to be done. I took some pics and measurements for him of the original Z Intake I had. You can see from the pics that it used to really stick up due to being too long. Maybe you have a Z06 bridge. Pics are here:
http://public.fotki.com/ttschwing/co...tuff/halltech/
Yours was the first LS3 ever shipped for fitment. All future LS3s were set up 1/4" shorter to avoid the radiator shroud problem you had.

There are none out there with the tighter fit you had. We needed an expert's opinion on the fit, since our LS3 had a slight variance when compared to its big brother.

Jim
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Halltech Beehive installed !!!!

Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:32 PM
  #18  
Halltech's Avatar
Halltech
Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 13,099
Likes: 672
From: Bristol, Tennessee
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by car2fast4you
Hey WGMARQ & Modshack,

Both of your installations look great!!!

I have a question for both of you:
How does the air filter on the Killer Bee fit under the hood on your C6?

Mine seems to fit like Modshack's.
It BARELY fits under the hood.
In fact, the hood actually pushes it down onto the radiator shoud.

On WGMARQ's, it looks like the filter sits a much lower.


The reason why I'm asking this is because, based on how my air filter fits, I'm don't think that it will fit under the Beehive shroud.

I'd appreciate both of your comments.
Thanks!
em me tomorrow, and I'll look into the fit for you. You might have gotten and LS7 bridge from one of our distributors by accident.

The Beehive has not been released yet for the LS3, but three have reported back that it fits like a glove, so I guess that is good enough for me.

Install: http://www.corvettels7.com/Instructi...iveInstall.pdf

Video: http://www.corvettels7.com/Instructi...ehive_0001.wmv

Last edited by Halltech; Jun 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:36 PM
  #19  
Modshack's Avatar
Modshack
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,939
Likes: 448
From: CHOCOWINITY NC
Default

Originally Posted by Jim Hall
Always cool to bee first.
Good work on the commercial piece, and Great name for it Jim....
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:10 AM
  #20  
toxin440's Avatar
toxin440
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,003
Likes: 1
From: Fort Worth TX
Default

can't wait to order mine here in a few weeks to compliment my Killerbee/VetteAir.

I would order it now but I need to let my mastercard cool down from the Killerbee and a Springfield Armory XD compact
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:43 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE