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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Had the 08 up past the legal limit. road is slightly rutted. As speed increased the right rear felt "loose". It like a feeling of something is going to fall off. It wasn't a traction control issue this was after speed was achieved not at inception. The 08 is a Z51 4LT Auto PS.

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Had the 08 up past the legal limit. road is slightly rutted. As speed increased the right rear felt "loose". It like a feeling of something is going to fall off. It wasn't a traction control issue this was after speed was achieved not at inception. The 08 is a Z51 4LT Auto PS.

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I can think of a lot of things. Start with tire pressure.

Rutted roads can be deceptive especially at tripple digits with no real problems.

Alignment, loose lugs, suspension bolts - list goes on.

How about some more details?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Depends on what exhaust you have, sometimes it can vibrate against the frame, expecially on the right side, mine does, I'm running corsa.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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I'd check tire pressure, lug nuts, and axle nut, in that order.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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let us know what you find
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pretty common problem with 4lt optioned cars
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Lugs tight (135 lb/ft), air pressure 30 psi (digital gauge), axle nut tight, I have not checked suspension. Saving that for the Dealership, just need ideas from the brethren. Sometimes its better to be an informed customer rather than a customer at the mercy of the service writers.

The exhaust is stock NPP.

So what needs to be looked at with the suspension? linkages, all bolts tight and secure are obvious but how do you test this at speed?
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Just jack her up and start looking around underneath. Grab what ever you can and give it a good hard shake. If you don't find anything after checking the tires, lug nuts and undercarriage take it to the dealer if you are still under warranty.
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Originally Posted by charlies ls3
pretty common problem with 4lt optioned cars
What exactly is that supposed to mean?
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Originally Posted by charlies ls3
pretty common problem with 4lt optioned cars
???
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by talon90
What exactly is that supposed to mean?
I believe that was a failed attempt at a joke.....
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On a rutted road with the wide tires on our vettes you really can't tell what's what.Go to a flat smooth surfaced road,like a drag strip,and repeat the process and see what you feel.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 05:45 AM
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Thanks guys I am way still under warranty, time for the dealership.

BTW I am still trying to understand the 4 LT interior comment. An attempt at a joke that needs more explaining please.
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I'm guessing the joke is implying the more stuff you have on the car, the more things there are that can rattle?

The recomended lug nut torque is only 100 ft. lbs., the 135 you stated is more than I would apply to them. That would be about right for the axle nut though.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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If the car's OK on smooth roads and the "loose" feeling is just on rutted roads, then the most likely cause is wheel alignment. I've had wide-tyred cars in the past that were death-traps on rutted roads when the alignment was out, especially under braking.
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Another idea would be to try the road in a similar car with similar tires. Don't know if you are a member of a local club or have friends with Vettes or not. I do know from experience that the wider the tires, the more sensitive they can be to a rutted road. Get the car checked out, of course, but a side by side comparison will give you another data point for reference with yourself and the dealer.
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Was the road dry or wet. If wet was there any standing water.

It could be a rear toe alignment problem too. This can casue the car to dart around if it is out, making it a real handful. I once had this problem on a Porsche 944 and I could not drive it over 55 MPH in the rain.
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one other possibility: I had that loose rear feeling in another car years ago, couldn't find anything loose mechanically, but ultimately sourced the problem to the tire which had evidently broken/failed belt(s). Replacement of tire cured the problem.
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Originally Posted by charlies ls3
pretty common problem with 4lt optioned cars
I was kinda wondering the same thing
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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I thought this was about driving the vette down in the "red light" district.
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