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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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I actually had my front transverse leaf spring start to splinter. I didn't know anything was wrong till I started hearing this annoying slight scrap at low speed. Got down and looked. It literally looked a big splinter was sticking up there somewhere between the oil and firewall. I had not had any incident to precipitate this. That composite material looks strange when it loses its integrity.
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Originally Posted by talon90
We have a winner. The car has elements of a unibody construction but it is in fact a spaceframe construction car.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by talon90
We have a winner. The car has elements of a unibody construction but it is in fact a spaceframe construction car.

I suggest that you do a little research on what space frames are and their application in the automotive design world. A very informative starting point. http://www.fierofocus.com/articles/a...o-history.html

Also do some research on the Ford GT mid engine car, as it too has a space frame and is also a unibody.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I suggest that you do a little research on what space frames are and their application in the automotive design world. A very informative starting point. http://www.fierofocus.com/articles/a...o-history.html

Also do some research on the Ford GT mid engine car, as it too has a space frame and is also a unibody.
Thanks. I appreciate your advice and link but will respectfully decline your suggestion I've seen your posts and sometimes battles over the frame construction of the Corvette here on the forum and I truly have no desire to argue with you. I will however agree with you that the car is not a body on frame construction.
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Originally Posted by talon90
Thanks. I appreciate your advice and link but will respectfully decline your suggestion I've seen your posts and sometimes battles over the frame construction of the Corvette here on the forum and I truly have no desire to argue with you. I will however agree with you that the car is not a body on frame construction.
There are two types of constructions used in trucks/cars, they are body-on-frame and unibody.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unibody

Space frame construction is just one type of unibody construction. Uni is defined as single or one, and when combined with body, as in uni-body, it means that the body and frame are one unit, as opposed to seperate as in Body-on-frame. On the corvette the space frame cannot be seperated from the body as in body-on-frame construction. The last Corvette with body-on-frame construction was the 1982.
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTY
Correction, I believe Clarkson referred to the Corvette spring system as "chariot springs..."
LOL! He also said they were from "A boxwagon" and referred to the suspension being "Vietnamese"

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Sorry to disagree but the C6 is a body on frame, nothing else. Separate frame (steel on the C6, aluminum on the Z06). Everything else attaches to the main frame members. The firewall/passenger compartment, the front suspension crossmember and the rear suspension crossmember all attach to the main frame.

A unit body has NO FRAME (it may have a subframe in the front for powertrain and suspension but no separate front to rear frame).

A space frame has NO separate main frame, just individual tubes or bar stock welded or glued together.
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He does watch TOP GEAR ALOT..
Then he will be very familiar of how good the Corvette (C6 or Z06) did with the Stig behind the wheel on their track. The Z06 only had a handful of cars above it and most were exotics (K-seg, MC12, Enzo, Zonda, etc)
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Sorry to disagree but the C6 is a body on frame, nothing else. Separate frame (steel on the C6, aluminum on the Z06). Everything else attaches to the main frame members. The firewall/passenger compartment, the front suspension crossmember and the rear suspension crossmember all attach to the main frame.

A unit body has NO FRAME (it may have a subframe in the front for powertrain and suspension but no separate front to rear frame).

A space frame has NO separate main frame, just individual tubes or bar stock welded or glued together.
This one gets my vote. Thanx for a lucid explanation.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I suggest that you do a little research on what space frames are and their application in the automotive design world.
I would suggest you do a little research on who employs the guy you are arguing with.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
There are two types of constructions used in trucks/cars, they are body-on-frame and unibody.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unibody

Space frame construction is just one type of unibody construction. Uni is defined as single or one, and when combined with body, as in uni-body, it means that the body and frame are one unit, as opposed to seperate as in Body-on-frame. On the corvette the space frame cannot be seperated from the body as in body-on-frame construction. The last Corvette with body-on-frame construction was the 1982.
Stop posting links to non sence that has nothing to do with a vette.. heres my advise to you.. Go watch the special they have on national geographic about how a Z06 is built and when you actually see them put it together you will go "Ooooooohhhh.. I get it now"

now heres a link that has some relevance!
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co.../3325/Overview

if you still dont get it.. a unibody frame is when the sheet metal IS the frame. Like an exoskeleton. The picture of the vette frame with the cabin part and torque tube tunnel is not the best representation, you could take those parts off and still roll the frame around, there would just be no place to sit
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