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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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I went to my dealer today and asked about the PAL for the vette. They told me the have one for the 08 and the 09 but not the 07. I am sure the 07's radio is the same. Anyone have any details on that.

BTW, i have not seen this product so how / where does it work? Is it just like the 3.5mm in thats on the cars with no nav only not in the dash? Where does it come out?

(I basically just want a 3.5mm jack in any help with that would be great)

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fonzijr1964
I went to my dealer today and asked about the PAL for the vette. They told me the have one for the 08 and the 09 but not the 07. I am sure the 07's radio is the same. Anyone have any details on that.

BTW, i have not seen this product so how / where does it work? Is it just like the 3.5mm in thats on the cars with no nav only not in the dash? Where does it come out?
Wow, if they have it for the '08/09' they could start an auction. I dont think it's out yet for any vette?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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You will find I suspect, by some of the replies that you will get to this thread, that the PAL is the be all end all reason and in some cases the only reason why some bought their Corvette. Some have threatened law suits other just can't resist taking pot shots at GM and citing it as the reason for their demise. So, It is a bit of a sore subject around here. GM has had a great number of problems in bringing the PAL to market. The last update that I had received is that there is a functional beta unit. They have failed to launch on a few occasions previously but I was told that it would finally be available "very soon" when I inquired in January so it is possible.

The Corvette audio and control system is a bit of a dinosaur and the integration of this unit in to that system proved to be problematic. This is further evidenced by the list of contenders and pretenders to fill the void left by the absence of the PAL. Most while providing limited functionality are what I consider to be "half baked" at best as an engineer. They offer problems and limitations that if GM were to release something so poor that they would be hung out to dry by the forum faithful. My take on it to this point is it will be released when it is ready and when it works as planned. Frankly, I don't want another half baked solution.

You asked what the PAL was. Here is the detail on the design goal and planned features of the unit. It is a lot more than the audio in jack on the non-nav radios.

The Personal Audio Link iPod adapter, about the size of a deck of cards and not visible to the customer once installed, uses existing radio software, and is integrated through the radio’s digital XM Satellite Radio band.


Personal Audio Link Key Features – At a Glance
  • Seamlessly connects an iPod to the vehicle’s factory installed audio system
  • Charges iPod when ignition is on
  • Choose from English, Spanish or French language for function displays
  • Search and display music by genre, playlist, album, artist
  • Use seek function to move forward or reverse within a song for up to 15 seconds
  • Select “shuffle” function to mix music
  • Sort music using “alphabetical jump” from A-Z list
  • Sort and select Podcasts and audio books by title
  • Control volume from steering wheel controls
  • Personalize text display in dynamic mode (radio display scrolls through artist, album, title, song, time remaining, etc.) or static mode (fixed on one display element such as artist)
  • Perform fast music searches using high-speed text display technology
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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You will find I suspect, by some of the replies that you will get to this thread, that the PAL is the be all end all reason and in some cases the only reason why some bought their Corvette. Some have threatened law suits other just can't resist taking pot shots at GM and citing it as the reason for their demise. So, It is a bit of a sore subject around here. GM has had a great number of problems in bringing the PAL to market. The last update that I had received is that there is a functional beta unit. They have failed to launch on a few occasions previously but I was told that it would finally be available "very soon" when I inquired in January so it is possible.

The Corvette audio and control system is a bit of a dinosaur and the integration of this unit in to that system proved to be problematic. This is further evidenced by the list of contenders and pretenders to fill the void left by the absence of the PAL. Most while providing limited functionality are what I consider to be "half baked" at best as an engineer. They offer problems and limitations that if GM were to release something so poor that they would be hung out to dry by the forum faithful. My take on it to this point is it will be released when it is ready and when it works as planned. Frankly, I don't want another half baked solution.

You asked what the PAL was. Here is the detail on the design goal and planned features of the unit. It is a lot more than the audio in jack on the non-nav radios.

The Personal Audio Link iPod adapter, about the size of a deck of cards and not visible to the customer once installed, uses existing radio software, and is integrated through the radio’s digital XM Satellite Radio band.


Personal Audio Link Key Features – At a Glance
  • Seamlessly connects an iPod to the vehicle’s factory installed audio system
  • Charges iPod when ignition is on
  • Choose from English, Spanish or French language for function displays
  • Search and display music by genre, playlist, album, artist
  • Use seek function to move forward or reverse within a song for up to 15 seconds
  • Select “shuffle” function to mix music
  • Sort music using “alphabetical jump” from A-Z list
  • Sort and select Podcasts and audio books by title
  • Control volume from steering wheel controls
  • Personalize text display in dynamic mode (radio display scrolls through artist, album, title, song, time remaining, etc.) or static mode (fixed on one display element such as artist)
  • Perform fast music searches using high-speed text display technology
Ok yeah i guess its like what the others are offering only better, thing is the dealer said yes they can get me one for the 08/09 they looked it up and they have the info but said no 2007

Does anyone know of a way just to have a 3.5mm jack added i man can i just getto run it via the same port as the XM/AUX?CD changer
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Just when I was about to order the USA-SPEC, it sounds like there may be hope for the PAL? I didn't even think that this was still being worked on. I guess I'll give it a little more time because I would really like some functionality through the radio instead of just using the ipod. The PAL is not the reason that I bought a Corvette, but I would have went with the 6 disc changer (not the NAV unit) if there was not supposed to be a PAL.

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You will find I suspect, by some of the replies that you will get to this thread, that the PAL is the be all end all reason and in some cases the only reason why some bought their Corvette. Some have threatened law suits other just can't resist taking pot shots at GM and citing it as the reason for their demise. So, It is a bit of a sore subject around here. GM has had a great number of problems in bringing the PAL to market. The last update that I had received is that there is a functional beta unit. They have failed to launch on a few occasions previously but I was told that it would finally be available "very soon" when I inquired in January so it is possible.

The Corvette audio and control system is a bit of a dinosaur and the integration of this unit in to that system proved to be problematic. This is further evidenced by the list of contenders and pretenders to fill the void left by the absence of the PAL. Most while providing limited functionality are what I consider to be "half baked" at best as an engineer. They offer problems and limitations that if GM were to release something so poor that they would be hung out to dry by the forum faithful. My take on it to this point is it will be released when it is ready and when it works as planned. Frankly, I don't want another half baked solution.

You asked what the PAL was. Here is the detail on the design goal and planned features of the unit. It is a lot more than the audio in jack on the non-nav radios.

The Personal Audio Link iPod adapter, about the size of a deck of cards and not visible to the customer once installed, uses existing radio software, and is integrated through the radio’s digital XM Satellite Radio band.


Personal Audio Link Key Features – At a Glance
  • Seamlessly connects an iPod to the vehicle’s factory installed audio system
  • Charges iPod when ignition is on
  • Choose from English, Spanish or French language for function displays
  • Search and display music by genre, playlist, album, artist
  • Use seek function to move forward or reverse within a song for up to 15 seconds
  • Select “shuffle” function to mix music
  • Sort music using “alphabetical jump” from A-Z list
  • Sort and select Podcasts and audio books by title
  • Control volume from steering wheel controls
  • Personalize text display in dynamic mode (radio display scrolls through artist, album, title, song, time remaining, etc.) or static mode (fixed on one display element such as artist)
  • Perform fast music searches using high-speed text display technology
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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I went ahead and equipped with a DNX8120 and got of it and more........better nav, better iPod control, great BT with multiple video in and out.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Well hopefully they will come out with it. I can handle it taking so longvif it works like it is suppose too, but when and if it does cone out and it does not work correctly GM will hear it. They are basically in a catch 22 here.
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Originally Posted by ch47d1sg
I went ahead and equipped with a DNX8120 and got of it and more........better nav, better iPod control, great BT with multiple video in and out.
you like it

Pics please ?

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Well hopefully they will come out with it. I can handle it taking so longvif it works like it is suppose too, but when and if it does cone out and it does not work correctly GM will hear it. They are basically in a catch 22 here.
Apparently its out
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Originally Posted by Fonzijr1964
you like it

Pics please ?



Apparently its out
Cannot post pics yet but the installation went smooth and its looks great. www.dfwvettes.com has an article on the install and the pics with it. The only thing I did different was the face plate preparation.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ch47d1sg
Cannot post pics yet but the installation went smooth and its looks great. www.dfwvettes.com has an article on the install and the pics with it. The only thing I did different was the face plate preparation.
y no pics?
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If the PAL becomes available for my 06, I will buy one and I will buy an i-Pod. If not, I'll live without it.
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Originally Posted by Fonzijr1964
(I basically just want a 3.5mm jack in any help with that would be great)
If all you require is a jack to plug iPod to audio system, look at this. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...s-with-xm.html
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by p35hp
If all you require is a jack to plug iPod to audio system, look at this. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...s-with-xm.html
saw that looks like a pain in the *** if you have XM which i do
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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so i was thinking if you buy the CD changer can u use the plug to make your adapter ?
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Originally Posted by talon90
You will find I suspect, by some of the replies that you will get to this thread, that the PAL is the be all end all reason and in some cases the only reason why some bought their Corvette. Some have threatened law suits other just can't resist taking pot shots at GM and citing it as the reason for their demise. So, It is a bit of a sore subject around here. GM has had a great number of problems in bringing the PAL to market. The last update that I had received is that there is a functional beta unit. They have failed to launch on a few occasions previously but I was told that it would finally be available "very soon" when I inquired in January so it is possible.

The Corvette audio and control system is a bit of a dinosaur and the integration of this unit in to that system proved to be problematic. This is further evidenced by the list of contenders and pretenders to fill the void left by the absence of the PAL. Most while providing limited functionality are what I consider to be "half baked" at best as an engineer. They offer problems and limitations that if GM were to release something so poor that they would be hung out to dry by the forum faithful. My take on it to this point is it will be released when it is ready and when it works as planned. Frankly, I don't want another half baked solution.

You asked what the PAL was. Here is the detail on the design goal and planned features of the unit. It is a lot more than the audio in jack on the non-nav radios.

The Personal Audio Link iPod adapter, about the size of a deck of cards and not visible to the customer once installed, uses existing radio software, and is integrated through the radio’s digital XM Satellite Radio band.


Personal Audio Link Key Features – At a Glance
  • Seamlessly connects an iPod to the vehicle’s factory installed audio system
  • Charges iPod when ignition is on
  • Choose from English, Spanish or French language for function displays
  • Search and display music by genre, playlist, album, artist
  • Use seek function to move forward or reverse within a song for up to 15 seconds
  • Select “shuffle” function to mix music
  • Sort music using “alphabetical jump” from A-Z list
  • Sort and select Podcasts and audio books by title
  • Control volume from steering wheel controls
  • Personalize text display in dynamic mode (radio display scrolls through artist, album, title, song, time remaining, etc.) or static mode (fixed on one display element such as artist)
  • Perform fast music searches using high-speed text display technology
I thought PAL development was canceled because all the new radios will have integrated iPod or a USB port.

Wonder if PAL for the Corvette is moving forward just because they have to have the option because cars like the Cobalt can't have a feature that the Corvette doesn't have...
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Originally Posted by TheTrot
I thought PAL development was canceled because all the new radios will have integrated iPod or a USB port.

Wonder if PAL for the Corvette is moving forward just because they have to have the option because cars like the Cobalt can't have a feature that the Corvette doesn't have...
The Nav radio still doesn't have an iPod/mp3 connect feature. The base and in dash cd changer have the auxiliary port but nothing on the nav radio.

Not cancelled last I heard.
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i am telling you people they said they can get me one now
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I called my dealer and he said the PAL was not listed on his GM parts site. Can you give me any info which may help him locate where to look ?
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I called my dealer and he said the PAL was not listed on his GM parts site. Can you give me any info which may help him locate where to look ?
idk i just walked in and asked the guys behind the parts desk and they were lik e"None for your 07 but it list it for the 08-09"
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Originally Posted by Fonzijr1964
i am telling you people they said they can get me one now
We know, we heard you. Please understand our skepticism has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with a dealership being the source of your information. Experience will teach you that they seldom have any idea of what they are talking about. Second, we have a couple of dealership parts vendors that have been watching for the PAL like a hawk because they know how much people have wanted it and how long over-due that it is. Last, all I can tell you is that the last time I inquired it was still coming soon. So with that, if you can get one, do it and prove us wrong. I'd almost be willing to wager that when all is said and done, he can't actually get you one. If you were to get one people would be lining up to buy it from you even if you couldn't use it.
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