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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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I just finished the second 30 minute long procedure to get all the fobs back again. For fun I tried taking the battery COMPLETELY OUT of one and it would not do anything until I put it in the glovebox slot...it then started the car with no problems....good to know but as I have heard that some people have tried it and it doesn't work, I would not depend on it. Also remember that the metal key would be required to get inside the car before the fob could be placed in the slot, because without a battery, it will not unlock the car, either actively or passively.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Whisky, I think you need to go back over the posted procedures again and read them slowly & carefully, then follow them exactly . CCLIVE's seem to work every time, so it sounds like you are missing something.

Hope you get through this without the dealer.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cclive
ED718, you had two other fobs already programmed to your car...lost or whatever, so the two that you did were added as 3 and 4. Now isn't it good to know that wherever those other two fobs are, they wont start your car anymore???? Because before the long procedure, they would have...
Yeah the dealership gave me only these 2 however one or the two had a dead battery so that is why I had to repair it when I got a battery in it. Good thing I did the long procedure and know at least ONLY these two fobs work on the car. Thanks for the heads up on that and also good thing I came across these threads.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JimTN
Whisky, I think you need to go back over the posted procedures again and read them slowly & carefully, then follow them exactly . CCLIVE's seem to work every time, so it sounds like you are missing something.

Hope you get through this without the dealer.
I really think its a problem with the slot or its electronics. Usually the tough part is getting the DIC to start the procedure...never had one where the DIC was ready and then wouldn't accept a fob. It is saying to put fob #1 in the slot...so we are 90% done. Also it could be that he isn't pushing the fob all the way in. His slot might be a little tight and so it seems like he is pushing it too hard. I am going to add some info to the long procedure though for this situation. If I were doing it, I would also try it with the buttons facing the other way...nothing to lose....we'll see how it works out...
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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I've tried it with the FOB facing both ways, tried holding it in with a little force but nada. I'll keep trying. Maybe take the glove box out and see if the wires are connected. Since it is the weekend I'll keep fiddling with it until Monday. Thanks for all the input.

I asked this in another thread...there is no actual connection in the glove box socket...Just a hole. I thought I might be missing some guts to the socket.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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I tried mating a new fob to my 2008 and was never successful. I followed the procedure step by step. Never could the car recognize the five trunk release key twists. Eventually I took it to the dealer and they mated it gratis and off the books.

The mechanic told me the problem I was having may have been caused by not having the car (manual transmission) in reverse. (If I understand correctly, manuals thru '05 had to be in reverse to shut down and after '05, that requirement was dropped. Could this condition have been left in the "mating" software routine after 2005?) I don't know if he was right or not - I didn't need to try anymore. But if you haven't tried this and you have a manual transmission, it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I just got a suggestion from FacadeC6... He had a friend who was in this same situation and he disconnected the battery for 10 minutes and then reconnected it. This rebooted the system and his glovebox slot then started working. Give this a try...it can't hurt....let us know...

You are doing everything correctly to get to the point where the DIC says it is ready for fob #1. Most problems are in getting to this point...but you are fine with this part, so don't change a thing with the key turn etc.

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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At this point I'll try anything! Thanks, I'll let you know.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Well I disconnected the battery for 10 minutes and tried again.
No go. Like I said, I get to the "ready for FOB #1" point and it never recognizes the FOB and eventually times out.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whisky
Well I disconnected the battery for 10 minutes and tried again.
No go. Like I said, I get to the "ready for FOB #1" point and it never recognizes the FOB and eventually times out.
I believe the question has been asked but just to make sure. Are you putting the fob in the slot with the correct orientaion?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Yeah, buttons facing passenger door. I even said what the heck and tired the other way, no go.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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man that sux times like this that you wish the car just had a regular key
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Actually you are right. Regardless of my problems with the programming I like the C5 system better. With the C6 you cant even get the seat to automatically adjust upon entry. You have to push the button on the door. I guess the only thing the FOB remembers is your radio preferences?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Whisky
Actually you are right. Regardless of my problems with the programming I like the C5 system better. With the C6 you cant even get the seat to automatically adjust upon entry. You have to push the button on the door. I guess the only thing the FOB remembers is your radio preferences?
The fob doesn't remember anything. It's not programmed for anything. The car is programmed to recognize the fob.

My seat moves into driving position automatically. That's because it has an automatic transmission. GM doesn't want your seat sliding while you're try to hold the clutch in if you have a manual tranny.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Yes, obviously you are correct. I should have chosen a better way to say that. On the C5 it didn't matter if it was auto or manual, once you poked the key in the ignition your seat moved! I liked that better.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Did you try removing the glovebox to see if the slot was properly plugged in? A concern of mine with the C6 fob system has always been that since most people never use the slot or the programming system to add a fob, there may be many out there who do not know that their system is not working. Most other systems in a car get used by the owner at least occasionally and so they are known to be working. Talon90 could probably answer this but I am wondering whether the fobs are actually programmed to the car at the factory using the glovebox slot or if the BCM or RCDLR and the fobs are paired before any of the electronics are even added to the car. The electric switch attached to the key cylinder in the trunk is another component that concerns me because it may be defective, and unless the owner turns the key 5 times and gets the DIC to respond, no one ever knows that it is defective. This is by far the most common failure that I have seen...every problem that I have ever seen with an owner being unable to program a fob has been where the turning of the key cannot get a response from the DIC.

Whiskey, your car is still on warranty so the dealer will come get it and fix it...my advice would be that you make absolutely sure that they FIX the system so that YOU can program a fob....it is a feature of the car and it should work properly. Many here on the forum who have not been able to program a fob have taken it to the dealer and then the dealer just uses a TECH II to program the fob, but NEVER FIXES the system in the car...this is wrong. The manual says you can program a fob and so it is a feature that should work. I would not want to be forever dependant on a $4000 machine owned by the dealer to get this done in the future.
If you are so inclined, try the 8 or 10 screws to remove the glovebox and confirm the electrical connection of the slot unit. Keep trying....and good luck!

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Also confirming that the fob is going into the slot all the way, such that there is only about a quarter of a inch of it sticking out at the bottom to grab it and pull it out....
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Thanks for your continuing input. I didn't take the whole glove box housing off but I did take the door off. I didn't see any screws to take more off but I was in a hurry and I'll look again today.
And yes, the FOB is in as far as it can go.

If all else fails I'll call the dealer tomorrow morning and have them come get it. I was hoping they could match them to the car with just the vin # but as others on this forum pointed out this is not the case.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Whiskey,

Can you describe in detail exactly which procedure you have been trying at this point? If possible copy and paste the steps here in this thread if you got it from the forum.

Also, can you tell me if your fobs are still working to lock and unlock the car at this point or not?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RicK T
Here is a procedure that has worked for many who have had trouble with the procedure in the manual:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1563917482-post10.html
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