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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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I receive alot of PM's and emails weekly asking about buffers and it amazes me at how many individuals dont have a buffer for paint care or use those old single speed big headed buffers we commonly see on sale for 25.00 around Xmas time. The great part is they are actually considering the change.

There is a big difference in buffers, and none are created equally. Alot of individuals have considered the move to a Random Orbital Buffer due to their offer of safety and abilities for minor paint correction and repair. They are also quite easy to use and so most could use them immediately with nice results and certainly better than hand application and removal.

The Porter Cable 7424/7336 (often called PC) is likely the most popular offering. It offers the ability to change pads / change backing plates / and speed sensitivity by dial. This is more than just a wax remover, and with the correct polish and pads can do alot of work even harder correction work. Sure some patience and care is needed, but no hard learning curve. It seems like everyone built upon this successful unit and likely not the first on the scene but became the Kleenex of Tissues.

Now we have two new (and one updated) buffers upon us that still offer all the benefits of the PC but with greater power and abilities. In testing these units are far more advanced than just a quick update or more orbits. The motors, chassis, and such really have been updated and offer alot more bang for the same buck. These buffers that really are the best of the best in entry level cost yet high performers. Early reviews suggest these units dont bog down as easily and really are indeed ready to help with proper finish care for your vehicles.

PC - 7424XP

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424xp.html

Griots Random Orbital

http://www.autogeek.net/griots-dual-...-polisher.html

Megs G110

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-dua...sher-g110.html


There is no wrong choice, and this certainly will replace the old Waxmaster with a machine that offers many benefits and uses. We at Autogeek have also designed many packages to work with these buffers and offer the correct pads and polishes too as needed. So if you are looking for a buffer, consider these for your needs and call us as wanted for help designing a package thats right for you.

And for those looking for circular polishers, and higher end random orbitals (like the Flex) we carry those too.

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**Buffers and Buffer Kits excluded from additional forum discount but price match guarantee offered**
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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You guys converted me. I love my PC..
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the info.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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I have the PC 7424, rec'd as a gift and would recommend it to anyone...
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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I have the PC 7424, rec'd as a gift and would recommend it to anyone...
thats a gift that keeps on giving and a good friend or family member indeed
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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How often can these be used w/o wearing through the clearcoat for swirls and minor scratches?Also, I'm worried I might ruin my paint learning to use it.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuego
How often can these be used w/o wearing through the clearcoat for swirls and minor scratches?Also, I'm worried I might ruin my paint learning to use it.
Trust me....you can NOT mess up your paint with an orbital buffer. I picked up my first one a couple weeks back to use on my black Z06. I had a lot of trepidation at first also,but within 10 minutes it seemed almost second nature,it truly is that easy and the results are 10x better than anything I've ever done by hand.

PC7424 btw.......
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How often can these be used w/o wearing through the clearcoat for swirls and minor scratches?Also, I'm worried I might ruin my paint learning to use it.
You can polish paint for many years without breaching the clearcoat provided you do things correctly, here are some hints.

1. Always use the least abrasive polish and pad first and move to more abrasive polish or pad only as needed.

2. Tape corners , emblems, and glass to avoid touching. Use care when polishing areas like corners where paint could be lighter.

3. Never use the side of the paint for polishing , the corners of pad and bottom backing plate should never touch paint. Most of the time the buffer should be flat against paint.

4. Always practice first, and consider using another vehicle or test panel to learn polishing techniques.
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I just watched the Pinnacle and Porter Cable video on swirl removal with the black F150 and man was that impressive!
Those swirls were terrible!
Killerwheels - I was leaning toward the Meguiars but if I want a brain dead way to replicate what I saw in that video what do I need to buy?
Plus, why no microfiber bonnet? I always thought bonnets were required for a polisher. The little crappy one I got from AutoZone requires a bonnet.
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Placed an order a while ago with Auto Geek (AutoGeek is second to none, great service and products)...started with the PC7424 and pads etc....now I cant stop myself from buying different waxes, glazes, car shampoos....and wanting to polish every car with a poor finish I see..still learning but boy...I didnt know what I was missing

Is there a detailing / modding support group... I think I have a problem and need some help....
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Originally Posted by ryoder
I just watched the Pinnacle and Porter Cable video on swirl removal with the black F150 and man was that impressive!
Those swirls were terrible!
Killerwheels - I was leaning toward the Meguiars but if I want a brain dead way to replicate what I saw in that video what do I need to buy?
Plus, why no microfiber bonnet? I always thought bonnets were required for a polisher. The little crappy one I got from AutoZone requires a bonnet.
No matter the buffer of choice (G110, Griots, PCXP, Flex) I have found that on Vettes their are two polishes that are all thats needed, Menzerna SIP and Nano polishes. Megs 105 and 205 are a nice second but dont use diminishing abrasives and might cause some harm if overworked. I highly suggest polishes like Menzerna that break down to finishing polishes for weekend warriors and hobbist specifically due to the extra safety.

The buffer you have from that "other" store is a wax remover at best. And thats where bonnets come into play, for helping to remove wax. I dont use a buffer for wax removal personally as using a wax or sealant (synthetic wax) properly means a very light coat and easily wiping by hand. We offer Microfiber bonnets as they are softer than terry cotton and less prone to scratches. When polishing paint (thus removing old wax, oxidation, contaminents) a foam pad is best and occassionally a wool pad (our purple ones) could be used. Often times wool in general is much to abrasive.

We offer more than several kits that put it all together for easy picking. These are my personal suggestion:

http://www.autogeek.net/pc7424-menze...ramic-kit.html
http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-g110-ceramic-kit.html
http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-fle...w-car-kit.html


THANKS TO ALL THAT HAVE PURCHASED FROM AUTOGEEK ALREADY !
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